^had a quick go with it last night.
It seemed to work OK just crippled my speed
OMG it's 56K all over again
Email details and website visits to be stored by the government as of today
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OMG it's 56K all over again
It leads down a slippery slope. If you look how this was snuck in, and this won't be the end of it. They'll need more extensive measures. And before we know it, they see everything. We have CCTV everywhere as it is!
If you've got nothing to hide, then I'm sure you wouldn't mind if I came into your house and started rooting through your things, or the police, or cameras are installed into your home, I mean, you've got nothing to hide, right? How about electronic tagging of everyone? I mean, it's not like you're going to be doing anything dodgy, right? How about having every last bit of your person recorded and kept on a database somewhere? That's fine, right?
Honestly, at what point will we say "this far, no further"? How many things will we give them before we turn around and say "no more"? Will we honestly wait until we have our hands completely tied before we actually wake up and do something about it? I mean, we march through London because we don't like a few bankers. We march because there's a war in some far away country, and war is bad, mmmkay? But when our personal freedoms are being stolen, we do absolutely nothing!
It's pathetic! Where did our spines go? When did we stop fighting and just let these things happen to us?
It's disgraceful.
That's the spirit. now why don't you roll over while I **** you in the bum..
So basically, is there a surefire way of protecting oneself form this insanity?. Tor is fine, but wont the isp's store the data regardless of where it's coming from? (that is to say, if it appears on my screen, then it has passed through my ISP regardless no?).
Surely if you were a terrorist planning on bombing some public target, such as the Big Brother house (which wouldn't be a bad thing in some people's eyes) you would just use laptops and an open public wifi connection to organise it?
we need some way of fighting this kind of thing, but I wouldn't know where to start! Where's Mark Thomas when you need him?
we need some way of fighting this kind of thing, but I wouldn't know where to start! Where's Mark Thomas when you need him?
So, tor and privoxy... done some reading but frankly its 3:30am and I have major CBAs to read up properly.
Someone give me a straight answer. Tor + privoxy with settings that don't take 30 years C++ knowledge to understand = me browsing/emailing anonymously?
Someone give me a straight answer. Tor + privoxy with settings that don't take 30 years C++ knowledge to understand = me browsing/emailing anonymously?
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Just like the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act was used for "fighting" terrorism? It wasn't absued by Coucils to do things like check parents are in the school catchment area or anything was it?
Go and read my Franklin quote again. Privacy is an essential liberty that you (and others like you) seem eager to give up just because you think you have nothing to hide and you think these acts protect you from getting blown up - something people fear but are almost improbably unlikely to suffer.
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I would hope so too but one can never be sure.
Just so you know, they need to keep records of email headers (ie who/when/where it was sent) and not the actual contents of the emails themselves.
Was talking with the guy who sorts emails out at my company yesterday about it (we are technically class'd as a small ISP). Anyways it would be impossable for us to store every email for a year, with the amount it would cost for new storage/servers. But the headers should be ok to handle.
Was talking with the guy who sorts emails out at my company yesterday about it (we are technically class'd as a small ISP). Anyways it would be impossable for us to store every email for a year, with the amount it would cost for new storage/servers. But the headers should be ok to handle.
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I think its all a load of tosh tbh, there's no such thing as freedom anymore, there is always someone watching you.
This is just another ploy for the government to control its citizens, and the whole terrorism thing is just there to put fear into people. You have more chance being hit by a bus than getting blown up by a terrorists bomb.
This is just another ploy for the government to control its citizens, and the whole terrorism thing is just there to put fear into people. You have more chance being hit by a bus than getting blown up by a terrorists bomb.
Oh thats ok then. Why don't you just record everything you do and report it to your local police station on a weekly basis?
Better yet, allow the government to install cameras in your home.
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U gotta love the "Nothing to hide" brigade
Its retarded reasoning like this that allowed the Nazi's to get into power
Its retarded reasoning like this that allowed the Nazi's to get into power
What about web based email, not going through your ISP's servers?
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No, it's not. The Nazis got into power through political manouvering by virtue of the fact that they were the largest party in the Reichstag. Public opinion had little to do with it.
I hope the "got nothing to hide" brigade don't show themselves to be hypocrits by, for example, buying curtains.
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565
That's a bit of a wild statement. Of course public opinion had everything to do with it. One of the main reasons for the Nazi's rise to power was their focus on unemployment and returning autarky to Germany's economy.
If public opinon had so little to do with it, why the extreme focus on propaganda?