Am I having the wool pulled over my eyes?

I don't know what's wrong with you recently. You used to post useful threads but now you're often seen being aggressive and completely miss the point of peoples posts in your rush to cut them down.

He means luxury good as in an optional extra not a necessary service and therefore a luxury, although I disagree that we get good value for money.

I have noticed that as well, very angry and negative.
 
Yes and no.

Irrespective of the cost breakdown for Xbox Live services, you're choosing to use the service at the price levied. Microsoft are not forcing anybody to pay for a Gold account, change there gamertag or any other use of the Xbox Live service.

People are free to leave and buy a PS3/PC and get free gaming if they don't like the way things are with Xbox Live.

No offence but what a load of ********!

forget the crap about leaving the 360 for a PS3/PC for free gaming, if they wanted to game with those they'd of used them to start with.

Microsoft have no provided no way for 360 gamers to play online for free so they are effectively forcing people to upgrade to gold!

I do play online and refuse to give MS any more money to play online, however, if they provided a way for the gamers to host games via external resources it wouldn't be so bad but what it comes down to is:

Pay MS or don't play!!!
 
luxury service? Its good but its hardly worth being called a luxury service. Steam destroys LIVE in every way possible and its free. Microsoft tried charging us for LIVE on the pc but no one was dumb enough to buy into it. Now LIVE on the pc is free.

I couldn't disagree more. Steam for me doesn't come close to LIVE. It's good at what it does, but LIVE is so embedded into the whole OS of Xbox360.
 
While i disagree with Zicos claim that the fee for changing names is just due to the costs of server maintenance (it probably takes only a few bytes of data to achieve this) it is undenyable that it is down to the user to choose whether he pays certain fees. MS doesn't hold your children at gun point if you downgrade to silver and they don't infect you with bad aids for not changing your name.

If someone wants to change thier name enough to justify the fee then it is not overpriced; people will pay so why the hell shouldn't they charge?
 
I have noticed that as well, very angry and negative.

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From the video link it says that without a fee people thousands of people worldwide would be making constant changes putting undue stress on the servers. Ok, i accept that reason (ish) but wouldn't a £1 charge work just as well? It would stop the willy-nilly name changes but wouldn't be STUPIDLY expensive if you did want to change it. Frankly £9 is disgusting
 
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If everyone could change their name again and again without charge griefers would be doing it all the time.
Having a persistent identity ties behaviour to it and makes it less easy for problem players to hide.
 
From the video link it says that without a fee people thousands of people worldwide would be making constant changes putting undue stress on the servers. Ok, i accept that reason (ish) but wouldn't a £1 charge work just as well? It would stop the willy-nilly name changes but would be STUPIDLY expensive if you did want to change it. Frankly £9 is disgusting

I actually seguessted a few months back that they could limit it to one name change every 6 months/1 year or something. Would stop people from constantly changing names. But then as i said previously, if people are willing to pay to change their name why the hell shouldn't they charge?
 
I couldn't disagree more. Steam for me doesn't come close to LIVE. It's good at what it does, but LIVE is so embedded into the whole OS of Xbox360.

Live is a gaming service so it's embedded into a gaming machine.

The PC platform isn't just there for gaming so embedding the Steam features would be a waste of time. If you want to play your games you load up Steam and the whole service comes with it, simple.

Usability wise Steam and Live are pretty much the same, the only real difference being that the 360 has achievements for every game.

Granted Steam isn't as noob friendly but then again most things on PC aren't.
 
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I actually seguessted a few months back that they could limit it to one name change every 6 months/1 year or something. Would stop people from constantly changing names. But then as i said previously, if people are willing to pay to change their name why the hell shouldn't they charge?

Then they should change their reason for the charge to what it really is. Capitalistic greed...
 
Then they should change their reason for the charge to what it really is. Capitalistic greed...

I don't think microsoft have ever stated their reasons for charging for a name change, only the odd few that aren't associated with MS give reasons other than the one you have stated. They are a company after all, a company notorious for chasing profits.
 
I honestly think Microsoft are no different from other online service providers - why shouldn't they charge for allowing people to change their name? Afterall there will be a cost on their side.

Activision Blizzard charge you on WoW for the exact same thing (£6). And I imagine there are other examples of this.

I personally have no hang ups about a company offering some sort of service, change name etc, and asking for a small admin charge. It is better than either offering not offering the solution (as was the case with changing your email address) and stopping ID's changing all the time.
 
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Activision Blizzard charge you on WoW for the exact same thing (£6). And I imagine there are other examples of this.

I guess that 10 million a month they make from subs isn't enough for server bills. :D

I don't think people should be able to change their name for free, there should just be another system for doing it. Say, only those with an x amount of gamer points can change their name. That would be better.
 
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I don't think microsoft have ever stated their reasons for charging for a name change

I was mostly referring to the video in post 5 that claims to have the 'official reason'...

There isn't anything wrong with a company chasing profits, per se, but in this case it's pretty clear they are charging extortionate amounts for what would probably would only cost them a few pence. Couple that with the fact they have neatly sidestepped ('lied about' is really what i mean) the reason for such a high charge and it's pretty reasonable that people feel disgruntled/annoyed about it
 
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