Ship geeks in ere - US Carrier in UK

JBuk · 12 Apr 2009 at 20:57

Mikeey44 said:
i dont know why we have a navy, compared to the USA we do look like chavs

We have a new Burberry class carrier?

Mikeey44 · 12 Apr 2009 at 20:58

haha just wanted to see the reaction I would get

dont worry i didnt mean it! god save the queen!

Burnsy2023 · 12 Apr 2009 at 20:58

Azagoth said:
So you're agreeing with the clueless person who apparently doesn't know why we have a Navy?

No, I was agreeing with the two people I quoted, but now I looked at it, it seems to be giving the wrong impression.

Voltar · 12 Apr 2009 at 20:59

Attu90 said:
But we already have a HMS Victory, OK she may be over 250 years old but she is still a commissioned warship with the Royal Navy and is the flagship of the Second Sea Lord.

recommission

I knew that already hence ^^

I'm a naval history enthusiast and would love to see a brand new flagship to bear the glorious name, HMS Victory, even though we have the Second Sea Lord to compete with.
I'd really love to see an HMS Victory being the pride of the fleet again.

Scania · 12 Apr 2009 at 21:01

Ricochet J said:
It's in honur of Winston Churchill. The American ship carries a Royal Navy ensign and there is always at least one Royal Navy personell on board.

USS Winston S. Churchill (DDG-81) is an Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer of the United States Navy. She is the 31th destroyer of a planned 62-ship class. The Churchill is named after the British Prime Minister Winston Churchill. Her home port is in NS Norfolk, Virginia.

Voltar said:
I'd really love to see an HMS Victory being the pride of the fleet again.

I vote HMS Hood.

Voltar · 12 Apr 2009 at 21:04

hehe HMS Hood

Nice shout there, but there is something innately glorious about a flagship called HMS Victory.... dunno why though

Mikeey44 · 12 Apr 2009 at 21:06

"It's in honur of Winston Churchill. The American ship carries a Royal Navy ensign and there is always at least one Royal Navy personell on board."

Thats a pretty awesome fact, never knew that! Thats a pretty amazing honour given to Churchill

Voltar · 12 Apr 2009 at 21:09

I don't know much about the modern navy so to speak, but I need someone to help me (special moment warning):

I can't see our ensign on the pic above... it's the orange with a yellow cross it seems? I didn't think that that was the Royal Navy's Ensign though.

Excuse moron moment please.

Tombstone · 12 Apr 2009 at 21:11

Voltar said:
I don't know much about the modern navy so to speak, but I need someone to help me (special moment warning):

I can't see our ensign on the pic above... it's the orange with a yellow cross it seems? I didn't think that that was the Royal Navy's Ensign though.

Excuse moron moment please.

Probably just not flying it, it does after all say that it carries one, not necessarily that it permanently displays one

Mikeey44 · 12 Apr 2009 at 21:11

its the english flag, just with inverted colors right?

Tombstone · 12 Apr 2009 at 21:12

Mikeey44 said:
Thats a pretty awesome fact, never knew that! Thats a pretty amazing honour given to Churchill

He is also the only prime minister of the 20th century to be given a state funeral. Interestingly Maggie Thatcher will also be having a state funeral (first time since churchill), so who knows...maybe in a while there will be a HMS Margaret Thatcher

mark66 · 12 Apr 2009 at 21:15

Awesome, I have always really wanted to see a US aircraft carriers in the flesh, just to fully appreciate their sheer size. I have watched the usual Discovery documentaries on them and the stats are bonkers, something like ~5000 personnel per ship!!

Fr0dders · 12 Apr 2009 at 21:17

Not impressed tbh

heres a video of a proper plane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fdI6wtARfE

Tombstone · 12 Apr 2009 at 21:20

I live in the portsmouth area, actually drive right along the seafront directly in front of where the aircraft carrier was sat every day.

Someone took a photo of the carrier from Portsdown Hill (which is a few miles away from the carrier), see that thing in the picture that looks like its part of the island on the horizon...thats the carrier

JBuk · 12 Apr 2009 at 21:21

Tombstone said:
I live in the portsmouth area, actually drive right along the seafront directly in front of where the aircraft carrier was sat every day.

Someone took a photo of the carrier from Portsdown Hill (which is a few miles away from the carrier), see that thing in the picture that looks like its part of the island on the horizon...thats the carrier

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you mean the spec in amongst other specs?

Mikeey44 · 12 Apr 2009 at 21:21

its a beauty!

Tombstone · 12 Apr 2009 at 21:22

JBuk said:
you mean the spec in amongst other specs?

Yup, the big spec thats the width of the picture

Azagoth · 12 Apr 2009 at 22:04

R420LA6X2/4MNA said:
USS Winston S. Churchill (DDG-81)

Better picture here, showing off the Royal Ensign.

I do have one somewhere with a Spitfire doing a low flypast of the Ship, but I can't find the CDR with it on just now.

^^Gord^^ · 12 Apr 2009 at 22:15

Good picture.

Von Smallhausen · 12 Apr 2009 at 22:16

^^Gord^^ said:
Hardly, the current crop of aircraft carriers are long overdue replacement and not far from falling apart. These carriers aren't on the scale of the USN ones and aren't even nuclear powered (a mistake in my opinion).

The factor in that decision would be cost.

Nuclear powered vessels are astronomical to run and carriers are the most expensive nuclear vessels of them all. Gas powered turbine powered are considerably less to construct and run.

The US Navy currently runs about 12 carriers, the cost being eye watering but then again, the US DoD has a budget of around $500 billion a year.

As for carriers being a waste of money, that is open to debate on your hawk or dove views but they are not going the same way of the battleship. A typical US carrier can wage 24/7 operations for about 6 weeks without the need to re-supply. They are incredible machines, which reminds me that I have a 1/350 scale USS Enterprise to get on with making.

HMS Illustrious was on the Tyne about 10 days ago. Still an impressive sight but it will be dwarfed and about 40,000 tonnes lighter than the new carriers.