NIST admits freefall speed

And a skyscraper weighs about a thousand times as much and can't easily be disassembled. It would be practically a logistical impossibility.


They got it to japan ok to melt it so its not as you say logistical impossibility

im off to bed nite all
 
I'm simply proving ) that not only did senior members of the US Government let the attack happen

Really? so why arn't you on the tv/in a court room giving testimony, or if it's a giant conspiracy like you claim being secretly murdered in a basement to cover it up?


if you could prove that they cause it/ let it happen you'd be getting multi million pound offers from newspapers and tv networks for the story rights.
 
They got it to japan ok to melt it so its not as you say logistical impossibility

im off to bed nite all

ship[ping scrap is one thing, however if you've ever seen the times theyhave moved historical buildings/bridges piece by piece to preserve them and reconstruct them it costs a fortune and takes ages. it's not a case of just sticking it in a empty fright ship and dumping it in a heap it takes months of painstakingly labelling everything in situ then moving it piece by piece.


It would have taken years to clear the site like that, tand that would be millions/billions of dollars wasted.

if they had collapsed suddenly without warning or visible cause then they might have reconstructed smaller models/examined much more wreckage to make sure that any other similar buildings didn't have the same structural fault. but as it was a pair of huge jetliner's exploding inside of it the cause was fairly obvious.



Now if all those saying it was demolition charges thermite etc etc, could please explain why they would bother? even i9f the planes didn;t colapse the buildings it would still have been a success as an attack.


planting explosives makes no sense whatsoever it massively increases the chance of failure ( ie explosives get damaged and don't go off so get found/ go off early / get found by people in the building/someone leaks it after the fact or before) and discovery.

any planned attack that came with the level of sophistication you are suggesting wouldn't do such a risky thing, simple = better as far as covert issues go.
 
Really? so why arn't you on the tv/in a court room giving testimony, or if it's a giant conspiracy like you claim being secretly murdered in a basement to cover it up?


if you could prove that they cause it/ let it happen you'd be getting multi million pound offers from newspapers and tv networks for the story rights.

Fair enough, I'm not proving anything that would hold up in court. I do however think it's a (very) fair assumption however that if senior members of the Government want the US to be attacked in this manner then they're not exactly going to flail their arms around when it does happen.

I'll try to respond to the other replies ASAP, this thread is starting to take its toll on my dissertation though. :p
 
I'll try to respond to the other replies ASAP, this thread is starting to take its toll on my dissertation though. :p

**** me - you're in your final year at a respectable red brick uni and yet you're dumb enough to buy into this conspiracy BS

please tell me you're studying for a BA and are not a science or engineering student
 
**** me - you're in your final year at a respectable red brick uni and yet you're dumb enough to buy into this conspiracy BS

please tell me you're studying for a BA and are not a science or engineering student

BSc Accounting and Finance, and assuming I get a 2.1 I'll be walking into a 35k a year job. Not trying to blow my own trumpet, just pointing out that there are loads of "doubters" who aren't your typical, idiotic, anti-establishment nut.

Oh, and I didn't think personal attacks were allowed on here?
 
I still find it stretching the bounds of credability that all 3 buildings went down in concise organised fashion

They didn't. All three buildings did not go down "in concise organised fashion". They fell at varying times, at varying speeds, for varying reasons.
 
yeah cause there hasn't been a sudden flood of experienced people looking for jobs in that sector lately ;)

nah - fortunately for him he'll probably be safe - accounting and finance grads aren't exactly typical front office material - they tend to end up as auditors not surprisingly and as such are less affected - if anything the credit crunch has brought about an increase in work in some areas for these guys.
 
They didn't. All three buildings did not go down "in concise organised fashion". They fell at varying times, at varying speeds, for varying reasons.

They all fell more or less into their own footprint in a uniform manner, ok quite a bit of debris fell into surrounding streets, but they didn't fall apart at staggered times or parts come away individually, or fall sideways, etc.

It all feels too drilled for my liking.

This video is quite interesting around 2:05 on
 
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They all fell more or less into their own footprint in a uniform manner

Which is what they were designed to do. No surprise there.

ok quite a bit of debris fell into surrounding streets, but they didn't fall apart at staggered times

Yes they did. They didn't all fall at the same time, and even when they did fall, parts of each building fell at different speeds.

or parts come away individually, or fall sideways, etc.

Yes they did. Parts of the North Tower broke away and fell onto WTC7. This is well documented.

It all feels too drilled for my liking.

Two planes crash into a couple of skyscrapers which collapse and take a third tower down with them... and you think this "feels too drilled"? What was it supposed to look like? Can you tell me what you think should have happened under these circumstances?

This video is quite interesting around 2:05 on

OK, I noticed lots of debris flying out from the sides of the tower, and showering WTC7. But apart from that... what's interesting about it?
 
why dont you accept what happened, stop reading into stupid conspiracies, what do you hope to achieve?

think about the lives lost.

and stop using retarded youtube videos, uninformed and uneducated arguments to try to prove something that is not true.

911 is a tradgedy, and also unfortunately a conspiracy theorists field day.
 
But neither does Nist.
in there report they state WE DONT KNOW HOW THE TWIN TOWERS FELL 100%
and they wont release their data for a independent review
they refuse point blank.

Please show me exactly where they say this.

Thank you.

They all fell more or less into their own footprint in a uniform manner, ok quite a bit of debris fell into surrounding streets, but they didn't fall apart at staggered times or parts come away individually, or fall sideways, etc.

It all feels too drilled for my liking.

This video is quite interesting around 2:05 on

Please read this entire page here.
 
I'm not saying it was a conspiracy and purposefully demolished - I'm just saying that I don't think there is hard evidence that rules out unconventional techniques - conventional techniques tend to be the best way to bring a building down inside its own footprint with minimal risk and colleteral damage - if it was a conspiracy they are hardly likely to use conventional methods being a bit obvious and all.

Sorry, you've got me confused now. If you're saying that you think unconventional techniques were used to bring the buildings down (aside from the rather hefty planes that crashed into two of them) then by definition you are saying that you think there was a conspiracy and they were purposefully demolished.

As for all the people claiming that they saw X or Y doing whatever to the WTC in the run up to the attacks my question is simply "why if the US Government was supposedly happy to allow XX thousands of its citizens to perish have they not just killed off these others who know the truth?" - at this point they'd be small beer in comparison.
 
9/11 CTs are like creationists, they will do anything to deny the truth.

I haven't seen one on here that has commented on http://www.debunking911.com/ and you never will, the truth is too hard for them to bear.

You are idiots, plain and simple, now go cry a river and say "your topic doesn't relate to this discussion". The worst thing about you isn't your lack of common sense, it's your stupidity that mocks the people that died.
 
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