Teachers demand 10% pay increase - Thoughts?

My mother is a teacher, and I would agree that they deserve a pay increase given the amount of UNPAID work she does outside of School.

Of course, where is the money to come from to pay for this pay increase? We're already stretched tight individually and as a government.

I think what teachers are after, and maybe monkeysmith will agree with me, I dunno, but what I think teachers are after is less bureaucracy that seems to be taking up sooo much of their time AT school and OUTSIDE of school.
 
Oh dear lol. I suspect that neither the government or the public at large are going to be too sympathetic towards this. I suspect it's just posturing, hoping they'll end up getting 8% over 3 years or something. Either way though, calls like this in the present economic climate are not in the best interests of either their profession or the union movement in general.

I wonder how long it is before that silly gal finds out that the grass isn't greener teaching in Africa either.
 
Rosbif said:
I think what teachers are after, and maybe monkeysmith will agree with me, I dunno, but what I think teachers are after is less bureaucracy that seems to be taking up sooo much of their time AT school and OUTSIDE of school.
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Agree. Think every teacher will agree with that. Can't see that every happening.
 
My mum is a teacher and the amount of work she has to bring home with her is ridiculous, she definitely deserves a pay raise. As for some of the other teachers at her school, they are completely incompetent, never put the effort in and definitely shouldn’t get one.
 
The average UK salary is circa 24k and the average salary of a teacher is circa 33k. The country is in a recession with redundancies everywhere, they already have more holidays than Judith Chalmers and now they want a pay rise? Riiiight....
 
I think everyone who does a good job should get a pay rise. But they also need to bear in mind that the country doesn't really have the money for this.

And that's just going to lead to raised taxes, so the public will pay for it.
 
Think 10% is a bit steep imho, should be capped the same as the rest of the public sector imho.

Yes they do a good/important job, but always get the impression they feel they deserve more.

Yes they do a lot of work outside school hours, but I'm sure their terms of employment don't state they only work during school hours.

I have a lot of friends who are teachers and they'll be the first to say they have it pretty easy with holidays, benefits, work load etc.
 
int said:
~£33k for half a year of work? No pay rise :/
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I think they get about 13weeks holiday, whereas most people get 4weeks.

So to do roughly the same amount of hours over a year as in a normal job they would have to do approx 10hr days. So roughly 8am-7pm inc 1hr for lunch. I very much doubt the majority of teachers do that every day.

It does also seem like teachers are always complaining about being paid so little. If its that bad then why don't they quit and do a normal job?! oh yeah... only 4weeks holiday, poor benefits, bad pensions, and paid even less.
 
Teachers should be paid what they're worth (i.e. performance based to an extent). At the moment it's based on a sliding scale of 'progression' which works on how long you've been employed as a teacher, and above this through pay thresholds that are obtained by proof of progression or the recognition of taking on extra responsibility (i.e. becoming a key stage manager).

Where my wife works this is massively abused by several teachers who earn almost £40K and do little more work than an NQT (although they're meant to domuch, much more), whilst my wife who has been teaching for only 4 years with her heart completely in the job and works her arse off gets £26K pa.

Often the slackers are those that cause the most noise about pay rises in her school, whilst my wife and some of her hard-working colleagues are quite content with what they earn/will be earning.

The issue here is that it is difficult to knock teachers back down the pay scale that aren't pulling their weight commensurate with their level of pay.

10% would be nice for my wife, but certain others certainly don't deserve it.
 
I'd happily give them a 10% pay rise if they agreed to drop their holidays. As has previously been posted, if they don't like their wages they can get a real job. It's amazing how few people you meet in the real world who used to be teachers.
 
10% pay rise during a recession? What are they on?


Mr-White said:
should be done on an individual bases
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If only the public sector in general could be like that. Make them work for progressive rise, rather than it being on a plate if they make x years in 'service'. The good ones will then get what they deserve, pay wise.
 
It really is a bit of a joke. I know two teachers and both are in the 40% tax band! I think a lot of teachers seem to forget that if you want paid well, you need to put in a lot of work.
 
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