NIST admits freefall speed

NeilFawcett said:
Nutter + planes = fallen buildings... There you go, sorted :)
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indeed, the sensible conspiracy theory wouldn't be the gov used demolitions but just set up the plane strikes.



as the government that pulled of such an attack wouldn't be stupid enough to run the risk of planting all those devices.

Always seems strange how CTs always try and go for the most complicated approach.
 
Tefal said:
Always seems strange how CTs always try and go for the most complicated approach.
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There's a reason for that, when their theorys fail, they have to make them more complicated, then they are proved wrong again and as such they have to come up with more complicated ways. You would think that when they hit an expectationally more complicated theory they would bin it and come up with a new theory.
 
AcidHell2 said:
There's a reason for that, when their theorys fail, they have to make them more complicated, then they are proved wrong again and as such they have to come up with more complicated ways. You would think that when they hit an expectationally more complicated theory they would bin it and come up with a new theory.
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WEll hells bells you show something that caaused it then instead

you can knock people down easy but you wont come up with the goods
when you are asked...

oh and just to make things even better
which oif the 3 reports do YOU belive? and the all been signed off by the gov.
 
AcidHell2 said:
There's a reason for that, when their theorys fail, they have to make them more complicated, then they are proved wrong again and as such they have to come up with more complicated ways. You would think that when they hit an expectationally more complicated theory they would bin it and come up with a new theory.
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indeed the simplest theory would be Us intelligence discovered the plot along with some details (possibly information shared with them by Mossad or their own services in the middle east) and simply aranged for norad/other security details to be occupied around the predicted date of the attack.

not so much causing it planning it or doing it themselves (as all of those are risky and likely to be detected/leaked) but simply providing an easier target for an already well planned attack.
 
kylew said:
I'm surprised at just how full of themselves people are.

Do you realise that 'logic' is basically governed by opinion?
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How's that then?

It's just something people use to try and enforce their opinion as fact. Logic isn't the same thing to everyone, and if you asked a large amount of people what their 'logical' soloution to a situation is, you'd get many different answers.
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I think you need to learn what logic is, and then you might understand the difference between following established facts through a train of logic, and interpreting events differently. Because that's the difference you're talking about - to you a puff of smoke coming out of a collapsing building is evidence of demolition charges, whereas to others it is evidence of the collapsing building compressing the smoke filled interior and it bursting out. Attempting to reduce the question of who is right or not to a "we all have opinions, so mine is as valid as yours" simply shows that you don't understand that in trying to understand who is right or not everyone's opinion is not equal. Those who have a better understanding and have considered all the factors at play (and whether they're important or not) should be listened to more than an uneducated muppet with a bit of video-editing software and a glut of gullible punters willing to pay for a CT video.

People like you are the worst by far, you have your opinions, which you're well entitled to, but you go one further by personally attacking people who don't share your opinions.
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No, using the term opinion isn't apllicable in this case. We're not asking "do you like this?", we're asking for whether the evidence is consistent with one version of events or an alternative. Disputing your version of events has nothing to do with your opinion, but whether what you say is consistent with the evidence, which it isn't.
 
Just to clear something up before I completely leave this topic alone, what I was calling absurbed was the suggestion of pre-set timers in demolition, not preset charges lol. Makes me laugh just to read that.
 
Rroff said:
Just to clear something up before I completely leave this topic alone, what I was calling absurbed was the suggestion of pre-set timers in demolition, not preset charges lol. Makes me laugh just to read that.
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so if you don't have pre set timers, you have some one manually triggering the explosives? that's even more absurd.
 
Rroff said:
Sheesh you really are ignorant of demolition.
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I think not

either you have timed or you manually start sequence. Unless you are saying they rigged the towers up with loads of high tech sensors and a computer program. But then the sensors are not likely to survive the impact.
 
Why would you have wires going to the detonators?

I'm really gonna leave this topic alone judging by the huge ignorance of demolition techniques in here.
 
AcidHell2 said:
I think not

either you have timed or you manually start sequence. Unless you are saying they rigged the towers up with loads of high tech sensors and a computer program. But then the sensors are not likely to survive the impact.
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Why on earth would you use sensors?
 
in regards to Evangelion

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that to me looks as if the tower is standing perfectly aligned, less the giant hole.
 
They should make an exact replica of the twin towers and pack the ground floors with CTs. Tell them exactly when the planes are coming and show them there are no explosives. Ask them if they want to stay to prove their point or leave.

I bet every one of them will run out those towers like rats from a sinking ship.
 
Rroff said:
Why would you have wires going to the detonators?

I'm really gonna leave this topic alone judging by the huge ignorance of demolition techniques in here.
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[can't resist]
do you mean your own ignorance
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You know you could try explaining yourself, rather than just shouting ignorant or absurd.

I assume you are meaning some sort of wireless network.. That would involve thousands of nodes. Over a massive area with metal and other heavy structures in the way and show me one instance something like that has been used.
 
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