Teachers demand 10% pay increase - Thoughts?

Personally, having spent 8 years working in schools doing IT support I'll say this - many don't deserve a pay rise and sadly the good teachers, who do unpaid overtime and work during school holidays to improve lessons and results will lose out because of the justified public outcry that will happen.

The average wage in this country is around £24k, many of those teachers, frankly a vast majority will be on more than this and working fewers hours with more holidays. I'm not slating all of them, they are some fantastic teachers, but there has to be some way of rewarding them whilst getting the rest to do their work for a change.

Teachers pay has risen dramatically in the past 10years or so, this just proves how greedy the teaching unions are. This is going to backfire on them, badly as the timing couldn't be worse. Performance related pay isn't really possible and frankly not desirable, but there has to be a way to reward good teaching, rather than throwing money on some god awful teachers.
 
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Well frankly I think Doctors/Nurses would also demand similar rises. However unless teachers they wouldn't set a bad example to kids by going on strike if they didn't get it..

Which we all know is what will happen.

Lets not forget the army of "teaching" and "classroom" assistants which have been brought in over the past few years to lighten the load on teachers.
 
Kami said:
The average wage in this country is around £24k, many of those teachers, frankly a vast majority will be on more than this and working fewers hours with more holidays.
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I don't get this line of reasoning. We don't live in a communist country where everyone gets paid the same hourly rate and according to how many hours they work.
 
Kami said:
Lets not forget the army of "teaching" and "classroom" assistants which have been brought in over the past few years to lighten the load on teachers.
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To deal with the extra special kids who should have gone to the special schools that have been closed to save money you mean? Yeah, it must be so much easier now!
 
You dont see the British Armed Forces demanding a pay increase and there lifes are on the line every day when there on the front line so why the **** should whiney ******* teachers get one :mad: ******* scum the lot of them
 
Monkey Puzzle said:
I don't get this line of reasoning. We don't live in a communist country where everyone gets paid the same hourly rate and according to how many hours they work.
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Tell you what I'll blow it up onto a smartboard, get the teaching assistant to explain it to you on a bullet pointed power point presentation shall I? :rolleyes:

It's simple, most teachers are overpaid as it is. To earn in excess of £33K a year on average then complain about it during a recession is downright insulting to everyone else. However I realise that the teaching ego machine is still in full flow, especially before exams when the threat to strike can have it's maximum effect.
 
steveo said:
You dont see the British Armed Forces demanding a pay increase and there lifes are on the line every day when there on the front line so why the **** should whiney ******* teachers get one :mad: ******* scum the lot of them
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The ones on the front line with a gun in their hand are doing it because genrally they are not going to get another job. Even when they leave they will become security guards.

That's not to say I don't think they deserve 5 times as much money, but there isn't much of a shortage to replace and train them.

Replacing a good teacher is harder than a front line soldier.

Besides if it's so worrying about these british armed forces putting their arses on the line each day, well pay the ones on the front line 10 times as much and those in the forces sitting behind a desk playing with computers 3000 miles from trouble 5 times less. There are thousands of british armed forces collecting huge wages and not putting their arses on the line. I was at Lyneham a few years ago and saw some terrible wastage of our tax money.
 
Vixen said:
Most teachers won't get any better just because there is more money involved. A better way to start would be to weed out bad teachers and pay them less, as at the moment it is very difficult to fire a teacher. .
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I meant better money to lure better quality into the jobs not to make the ones we have better.
 
A question for the teachers or partners of teachers in this thread.

I have a lot of respect for some of the teachers I spent 8 years working with, an immense amount. I'd love those teachers to be generously rewarded for the superb work they do on a daily basis, but as yet nobody has come up with a good way of doing so. So do you think asking for such a large pay rise at this time of year and during a recession is wise?
 
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