"Attenborough in population warning"

I blame the pope for some of this.. as an ex-catholic/religious nut, I can't see any reason behind their stance on condoms and safe sex. We've twisted religion for centuries to suit ourselves, yet they can't alter it to stop children being born into poverty and starvation.
 
I blame the pope for some of this.. as an ex-catholic/religious nut, I can't see any reason behind their stance on condoms and safe sex. We've twisted religion for centuries to suit ourselves, yet they can't alter it to stop children being born into poverty and starvation.

and if they are such strong religious, they shouldn't have sex out side of marriage and should only do it to procreate blah blah blah. If they don't want to follow half the rules of the religion they follow, then why absolutely abide by the no condom rule?
 
Why does the OPT want to stop the UK population from increasing, we have an ageing population anyway.

The only countries that could implement a population limit scheme would be the developed countries which generally don't have a huge population increase.

But if this groups warnings are to be taken seriously then getting religious groups to stop condemning use of contraception would be a good start.

Thats why we are brining immigrants in though tto counter-act it. They support this country.
 
nature will sort this out - too many people, lower standard of living, crowed places, unsanitary conditions, ripe for a pandemic.
how about nuclear war between india and pakistan.
or, global food supply is already tight - further droughts - starvation caused by supply shocks and subsequent wars as countries secure their own food production/supply.
or, peak oil begins to bite - countries stop exporting oil - for those without their own supply it becomes prohibitively expensive - global transportation of food stops - war.

see, you're not looking on the bright side ;)
 
and if they are such strong religious, they shouldn't have sex out side of marriage and should only do it to procreate blah blah blah. If they don't want to follow half the rules of the religion they follow, then why absolutely abide by the no condom rule?

People aren't that intelligent mate and yet again you don't see the Pope shouting about them being randy and telling them to keep it tucked in their pants :p He's happy for the numbers and frankly at the end of the day it's all about income.
 
you don't see the Pope shouting about them being randy and telling them to keep it tucked in their pants

I think you'll find sex before marage is not approved of and many sermons will be about it. Can't blame the pope if they don't follow what he says.

It's like working in a factory, being told to wear a helmet, then act surprised when you get a head injury, whos fault is it? the managers or the workers.
 
Isn't it mainly China and India which are hugely increasing in population? Europe/America etc are all quite stable, if not dropping?
 
Isn't it mainly China and India which are hugely increasing in population? Europe/America etc are all quite stable, if not dropping?

Yeah i assume in the next 20 years changes in their social ideologies and development of their countries will lead them to a similar thing. I think people should stop worrying hehe
 
On one hand, I think it's good of Sir David to raise these issues.

On the other, it makes me sad that it has to be said by a wildlife presenter for anyone to take notice...

This is nothing new. This is 70 years ago's news.
 
I was saying this 10 years ago. People laughed at me.

Hopefully as the weather picks up, it wipes out 2-3 Billion people.

We need to get down to about 3-4 realistically if we all want to have our cushy lives.
 
Isn't it mainly China and India which are hugely increasing in population? Europe/America etc are all quite stable, if not dropping?

Well, I would love to know how the EU is dropping with all the immigrants breeding like rabbits.

The US population has increased massively over the last 25 years. Again, a large part of that is immigration.
 
I was saying this 10 years ago. People laughed at me.

Hopefully as the weather picks up, it wipes out 2-3 Billion people.

We need to get down to about 3-4 realistically if we all want to have our cushy lives.

I laugh at you know. Technolgy never stands still. all the time farming and resources are improving. soon we will be seeing new types of fuels come onto the market. we can still live comfortably even with a few billion more, not less.
 
I laugh at you know. Technolgy never stands still. all the time farming and resources are improving. soon we will be seeing new types of fuels come onto the market. we can still live comfortably even with a few billion more, not less.



No new fuel will ever replace what cheap oil does.

The world is running out of cheap oil and yes i know they is still loads to drill, but what will the world do while oil is 300 a barrell?

Peak oil will come faster now, as there is less investment drilling etc now as oil is cheap.

Its take about 7 years to get a good flow of oil from a well. By then we will be already in trouble.
 
No new fuel will ever replace what cheap oil does.

The world is running out of cheap oil and yes i know they is still loads to drill, but what will the world do while oil is 300 a barrell?

Peak oil will come faster now, as there is less investment drilling etc now as oil is cheap.

Its take about 7 years to get a good flow of oil from a well. By then we will be already in trouble.

ha-ha despite all the alternatives that have proved to work in small scale and work out as being cost effective. From shale energy to African based solar power.
 
I laugh at you know. Technolgy never stands still. all the time farming and resources are improving. soon we will be seeing new types of fuels come onto the market. we can still live comfortably even with a few billion more, not less.

LOL. The jokes on you I'm afraid.

Even if we had nuclear fusion right now, we would still need the stupid amount of developed land we need now.

Humans take up space, and no matter what tecnology is round the corner, it will not change anytime soon.

I LOL at the people that think no matter what the population is, the Earth will be ok. Such persons evidently have little to no idea what actual impact we truly have.
 
ha-ha despite all the alternatives that have proved to work in small scale and work out as being cost effective. From shale energy to African based solar power.

So what about all the products produced from oil?

Its not a case of running out of oil. We should have been replacing its use long ago with large scale project geared towards providing power to the country. By the time they start doing something it could be to late thats the problem.
 
ha-ha despite all the alternatives that have proved to work in small scale and work out as being cost effective. From shale energy to African based solar power.

Really?

Is this the same African Solar power that needs an area the size of Libya?

Nice. Quality.

Essentially we have to accept that all these alternatives are pathetic, and only viable in small scale projects.

Fusion is the ONLY way humanity can survive keeping the comfort we enjoy today.
 
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