"Attenborough in population warning"

I LOL at the people that think no matter what the population is, the Earth will be ok. Such persons evidently have little to no idea what actual impact we truly have.

we have lot's of impact, but we don't need natural eco systems and such like. As i said we can't support many 10 of times more population than we currently have. If you wiould want it is a different matter.

we will see keep this thread for 2020. The population will increase and we will carry on living.
 
teaboy5 is right - there is no energy source that even remotely comes close to oil in its efficiency.
for the US to replace all its oil use with electricity would require 750 new nuclear power stations to be built - far far more than there are in the world at the moment - an enormous task that would require enormous power requirements itself.
how did i get talking about this???

anyway, there are plenty of problems that will curb world population - all the estimates of population growth also assume that all the natural resources will grow at the same rate - its just not going to happen
 
Ok, all you folks who disagree with Sir David - what do you think is the maximum number of people the world can sustain!
 
Ok, all you folks who disagree with Sir David - what do you think is the maximum number of people the world can sustain!

the earth can sustain we've gone past that. what humans can sustain on the earth, many times the population of today.
 
anyway, there are plenty of problems that will curb world population - all the estimates of population growth also assume that all the natural resources will grow at the same rate - its just not going to happen

thats the problem, the resources arent going to keep up, everyone gets screwed

im not so much worried for the earth as a planet, we cant dent that. But the quality of life for my future family is questionable

thats the problem
 
Current global predications are that the population will peak around the year 2072 and then start declining, so I wouldn't panic.
 
thats the problem, the resources arent going to keep up, everyone gets screwed

im not so much worried for the earth as a planet, we cant dent that. But the quality of life for my future family is questionable

thats the problem

exactly - once people's standard of living drops dramatically we'll see how charitable they are. sure, the planet can sustain a few more billion people but if it gets to that you can forget about driving a car - you won't be able to afford the fuel. forget about luxuries, forget about holidays, forget about fancy imported food - life will be very tough.
 
I've been thinking about this very issue for some time now. I didnt even know about OPT!! Well done to Attenborough for raising this difficult topic!

You know ever since watching Logans Run i thought what a good idea! Sure when im an old fart i dont think i'd like to be carted off pit of swirling death but perhaps there is some better way to go about it. Taking the fact that limiting the length of life will probably be the last option to choose in order to curb population growth, the other main option is to reduce births

So how to reduce births?? Like many have said Europe is not the issue here - the increase in birth is quite minimal - although those who are reproducing are said to be the inappropriate ones. I mean this government do not give any tax breaks to educated professionals to have children yet the single poverty-stricken mums who play the benefits game are all too prevalent!! Unfortunately this leads to the topic of Eugenics and we all know where this can lead thanks to a certain Mr Hitler!

Taking a look at the population pyramids you can see that western European countries will suffer in having to support an older population - look at Italy for worst case. Increasing working age and various other schemes could help dent this issue.
As been stated before migration to this country is the issue. A certain level of migration is good but when the likes of Ethiopia/India/China have an obscene growth in population they can only spread out and migrate to countries which are controlling living conditions by naturally controlling birth rates.

So we close the borders to Europe and perhaps the UK from immigrants! But wait we can’t do that! That leading down the path of being branded racist and xenophobic!
If the world is to be an open free place we need the likes of such booming populations such as Ethiopia/India/China to reduce their levels - will this happen? Of course not!! Most of the population live in poverty! Education as such is a low priority and so this message of reducing numbers for the better good of the world will not be told.

Okay so far this all leads us to the conclusion that we cannot curb population by controlling living age limit and births. Quite frankly the world is stuffed and sad as it is say our only hope is that natural disasters and war will reduce numbers... after all it has been that way since our existence.
 
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the earth can sustain we've gone past that. what humans can sustain on the earth, many times the population of today.

I think you are overlooking the link provided in the OP. Of course, the human population can, and will, continue to grow, but it will be at the vast detriment of wildlife.
 
I think you are overlooking the link provided in the OP. Of course, the human population can, and will, continue to grow, but it will be at the vast detriment of wildlife.

and why does that matter? we do not need eco systems and such to survive anymore.
The alternatives are so archaic and silly. Like one birth rules.

We will always have large areas of nature that will be protected.
 
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