Anyone else watch this and think "Yeah, she asked for it"?

Police officers are professionals. They are trained not to resort to unnecessary violence or crack under pressure. There was absolutely no reason to hit that woman. Warning her doesn't mean *** - if I tell you that I'm about to punch you in the face, it doesn't make it legal.

Her 'asking for it' consisted of getting in his face and shouting at him after he shoved a woman off camera. It really is amazing that so many people on this forum have such a hard-on for authority figures that they believe anyone who doesn't defer to the police at all times should be beaten. You'd all fit in well with the jurors who thought this was an example of fine policing.

Voltar said:
I'd really like to go and crack some skulls because I hate these kinds of people. What the injustice is now is such that idiots like Chakraborati can say what they like and have influence. Hearing her 'speak' makes my blood boil.
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Laffo

Gothic Draconia said:
These protesters who look for trouble should be grateful they're not protesting in a country where the police or army spray bullets in order to control the crowd.
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Not recently, anyway.
 
actually the Sunday papers were full of stories from individuals who were peacefully protesting at the climate camp, including professionals like Drs, who got injured when the police waded in there.

Unfortunately therewas either no photo video evidence or it just hasn't been picked up by the media.
 
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TJM said:
Police officers are professionals. They are trained not to resort to unnecessary violence or crack under pressure. There was absolutely no reason to hit that woman. Warning her doesn't mean *** - if I tell you that I'm about to punch you in the face, it doesn't make it legal.

Her 'asking for it' consisted of getting in his face and shouting at him after he shoved a woman off camera. It really is amazing that so many people on this forum have such a hard-on for authority figures that they believe anyone who doesn't defer to the police at all times should be beaten. You'd all fit in well with the jurors who thought this was an example of fine policing.


Laffo


Not recently, anyway.
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Go to a city where you can pop into a shop and leave your car running without anyone stealing it, leave your house unlocked and not worry about scrotes entering, walk the streets without any fear of violence and then you tell me if you think police in this country should have to stand back and take ****.
 
TJM said:
Her 'asking for it' consisted of getting in his face and shouting at him after he shoved a woman off camera. It really is amazing that so many people on this forum have such a hard-on for authority figures that they believe anyone who doesn't defer to the police at all times should be beaten. You'd all fit in well with the jurors who thought this was an example of fine policing.
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But, but, but, he had it coming! Look at how he's annoying those poor police men! See how he taunts them! These people just don't listen to warnings, you have to come down hard on them.
 
gurdas said:
In situations like that I think it's ok to use force when deemed appropriate. Someone said it's not the police's job to 'teach people lessons', but when you have mindless people who behave in such a way, how they are going to learn? Locking up everyone on that day would have been a logistical nightmare, a beating is the only language some people understand and if it's justifiable then i'm all for it.
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I agree. She was obviously warned more than once, and got dealt the consequences in a high pressure situation.

I think the tripe being churned up by the media is extremely damaging to the police force in terms of respect and authority which should be in place.
 
p4radox said:
But, but, but, he had it coming! Look at how he's annoying those poor police men! See how he taunts them! These people just don't listen to warnings, you have to come down hard on them.
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Interesting rhetoric; you make your point.

However, this case is different from the one which we have previously been discussing. I'm sure you'll decide I'm a hypocrite when I say that that video was sickening, but I'm not unreasonable and that is shocking to say the least. That IS police brutality. The G20 woman's case is not.

On a side note, whilst not defending the police who beat the soldier up, there is no sound on that video. Also it doesn't show the events prior to them running at him. Nor does it show what was being said. He could have provoked them to arrest him. (The correct course of action as we have said before in most circumstances, such as this one.) Unfortunately this is a case of brutality. Shame on those police who give the protesters valid material to give unrelated officers abuse.
 
gurdas said:
Go to a city where you can pop into a shop and leave your car running without anyone stealing it, leave your house unlocked and not worry about scrotes entering, walk the streets without any fear of violence and then you tell me if you think police in this country should have to stand back and take ****.
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The only way society would ever be free from crime would be if the entire population was in total fear of the authorities. I'll take what we've got over that.
 
joewm18 said:
I agree. She was obviously warned more than once, and got dealt the consequences in a high pressure situation.

I think the tripe being churned up by the media is extremely damaging to the police force in terms of respect and authority which should be in place.
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If you child disobeyed you twice would you slap their face and then strike them with a baton?
No I thought not.
If you had a few too many and did not move along when told would you expect to be slapped then struck with a baton?
No I thought not.
The amount of support for violence by Police when unwarranted in this thread is staggering and somewhat worrying.
 
She pushed a police officer, then she got slapped.

Then she walked forwards towards him again, and he hit her in the back of the leg with a batton and said to her "Go away" a second time

It was appropriate force, done in a controlled manner, and she should have expected it, as he had previously warned her to leave, and pushed/slapped her away.

He did not continue to hit the woman, nor did his voice change tone, therefore it was not out of anger and it was quite clearly her own fault for ignoring police instructions during a protest.

If you want to go on about "Too much force" etc. etc. I suggest you come to N.Ireland, where the police arent even allowed to attack back when being PETROL BOMBED or bricked.

Anyone who seriously riots in this country know that the police have been restrained so much, that they can pretty much do anything they want, so long as their face is covered and can't be identified. I was always amazed at how the police or army could stand there while all around them was on fire, and bricks were being lobbed at them.
 
It emerged that the woman, identified only as Nicky, has since asked PR guru Max Clifford to negotiate a deal with the media.
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Lovely. Fancy that. No official allegation of assault but hey lets sell the story..
 
Brian Stuart said:
If you child disobeyed you twice would you slap their face and then strike them with a baton?
No I thought not.
If you had a few too many and did not move along when told would you expect to be slapped then struck with a baton?
No I thought not.
The amount of support for violence by Police when unwarranted in this thread is staggering and somewhat worrying.
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Was the police officer dealing with a child?
No I thought not. The actions dealt out in this situation were completely relative.

Your 2nd example is a totally different ball game, drunk or not you should still show the utmost respect for police officers who are simply doing their job and employed to keep the peace, whether you are responsible enough to know when you've drunk enough or not is your own damn fault, is a stumbling drunk wandering around in the street shouting and waking up the neighbourhood acceptable? No I think not!

:)
 
joewm18 said:
Was the police officer dealing with a child?
No I thought not. The actions dealt out in this situation were completely relative.

Your 2nd example is a totally different ball game, drunk or not you should still show the utmost respect for police officers who are simply doing their job and employed to keep the peace, whether you are responsible enough to know when you've drunk enough or not is your own damn fault, is a stumbling drunk wandering around in the street shouting and waking up the neighbourhood acceptable? No I think not!

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So all policemen are paragons of virtue, never abuse their powers and are quite within their rights, but not the law strangely enough, to administer a slap to anyone who behaves in an "acceptable" manner?
 
TJM said:
The only way society would ever be free from crime would be if the entire population was in total fear of the authorities. I'll take what we've got over that.
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But if you aren't doing anything wrong, then what would you have to worry about?
 
p4radox said:
Ah that old chestnut. The same chestnut that those in support of wire-tapping and governent snooping rely on time after time.
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Nope not at all and I study privacy and have my own views on that which is a totally different discussion.

All i'm saying is that it should be justifiable for police to use force against mindless crime. A no **** policy will soon make people think twice. When I was out working in Dubai in Feb, you could leave your shopping in the middle of a mall, come back 30 mins later and it will not be stolen, the result? One of the friendliest and safest cities I have been to.
 
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