Pirate bay court case

How could you not see this happening? TPB would always lose regardless of strength of case. You can't beat corporations, they'll just sink more and more money into it. Corporations make the laws and rules which you must live by, and that's the way it is.

They will appeal, but they will lose that too.
 
Because Newsgroups consist of downloading software and actually having a Newsgroup server to connect to, the mass general public are not clever enough to work it out. Many times I've told my friends to use newsgroups and they look at me with a bewildered look on their face.

I suppose thats a good thing :)
 
DampCat said:
How could you not see this happening? TPB would always lose regardless of strength of case. You can't beat corporations, they'll just sink more and more money into it. Corporations make the laws and rules which you must live by, and that's the way it is.

They will appeal, but they will lose that too.
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Sad, but true. RIAA can pour so much money into lawyers its untrue, and I shudder to think of the backhanders that were involved in getting this verdict through.
 
Johnnytoxic said:
Because Newsgroups consist of downloading software and actually having a Newsgroup server to connect to, the mass general public are not clever enough to work it out. Many times I've told my friends to use newsgroups and they look at me with a bewildered look on their face.

I suppose thats a good thing :)
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I have told a lot of my friends this also, they get stuck on finding access in the first place, and when I inform them they must pay a monthly fee to access this, they turn their noses up.
 
anticonscience said:
I have told a lot of my friends this also, they get stuck on finding access in the first place, and when I inform them they must pay a monthly fee to access this, they turn their noses up.
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Thats the reason why traditional P2P failed, too many leechers in every sense of the word.
 
The problem for the RIAA was that they didnt actually host the copyrighted material, so under Swedish Law they wern't actually doing anything wrong... but the charge was changed on day 2 of the trial to "Assisting" the availability of copyrighted materials, which is where they got screwed really.
 
Anyone else picture these Sweedish guys like Matthew Lillard aka Serial Killer been dragged away by Police shouting "Hack The Planet" :). The internet people will be p****d at this decision.
 
I'm not sure that as others have said usenet will be next. It's a completely different beast, for starters the random huge fines sent out to users won't be possible as there is no seeding.
 
What I find strange is that they have been convicted, yet the website is not being taken down. If that is the case, isn't their "crime" still continuing?

As for the implications, other than a raised profile for the website and torrenting as a whole, this will not have any! For every site that is taken down, ten more pop up in it's place.

Oink is a great example of that - the worlds most complete private music tracker is taken down and replaced instantly by many others, and two in particular that are now far far far bigger and more organised than Oink.
 
It's all a charade. I dont particularly favour the side of Pirate Bay, im not out to Stick It To The Man or Screw The System or whatever, the verdict means little me... but i just cannot comprehend at what point the guys deserved jail time. A fine, yes. Being shut down, and barred from hosting? yes. But jail?

There was a quote earlier in the week with a spokesman from some record company demanding jail time. Demanding it like they make the rules. Well, obviously they do make the rules. So many back-handers behind this, it's untrue.

Like i said, i'm not taking sides, but this is just a big charade for the puppet theatre.
 
Basher said:
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because they do not host any illegal files themselves ..

all they do is have a sharing system that allows others to share files

what others choose to share is up to the indiviuals and not the piratebay owners

so to get a prison sentence, imo, is over the top and very harsh
 
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