Pirate bay court case

How sure are you about that?

Oh pretty sure, drop us a PM if you want the info, and then you can afterwards choose if you want to act on the information.

So later are you saying if you get busted you whine to the police and say "but Le_Petit_Lapin told me where to buy drugs", and I'll be charged?
 
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Oh pretty sure, drop us a PM if you want the info, and then you can afterwards choose if you want to act on the information.

So later are you saying if you get busted you whine to the police and say "but Le_Petit_Lapin told me where to buy drugs", and I'll be charged?

Are you saying that it is in no way illegal for anoyone to help others break the law as it's ultimately the decision of the end guy to decide if he does break the law?
 
Are you saying that it is in no way illegal for anoyone to help others break the law as it's ultimately the decision of the end guy to decide if he does break the law?

In terms of torrents, yeah.

Hell, the whole internet facilitates and helps the breaking of many laws, perhaps we should just turn the whole thing off?
 
And for what reason?? oh is it the£9 of profit on a cd of recycled garbage....


I will and do buy cds when their not 1 decent song and generic garbage the other 7 tracks.

LOL - That is just the repsonse I would expect from some leeching scumbag.

If you dont agree with how the record industry works, dont buy any of its products.

I like fish and chips but just because I think its overpriced, I do not go to the local chippy and rob them at gunpoint.
 
LOL - That is just the repsonse I would expect from some leeching scumbag.

If you dont agree with how the record industry works, dont buy any of its products.

I like fish and chips but just because I think its overpriced, I do not go to the local chippy and rob them at gunpoint.

Isn't it more akin to waiting until the chippy is closed, then sneaking in at night and taking a five finger discount on a fish and quantity of chips then taking them home to cook in your own oven?

Ok. I completely disagree with that.

I can see that! :)

I dunno. Perhaps the media companies should just release the thing on DVD and cinema at the same time, and allow the downloading of the DVD at fast speeds from their website for a fee. I can imagine that the quality of that release compared to the quality of a torrented copy might lure some people away from downloading movies.

In terms of music, artists should just host it themselves in a lossless format on their sites for whatever fee they see fit, not what a record company feels is acceptable. They'd probably make more money.
 
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How would you go about that?

Go about developing a better competing product rather than continually trying to effectively flog a dead horse with existing products that are clearly not deemed good value by many people.

A decent cheap, restriction free music download service at a good quality would cut music piracy hugely for example but such a thing does not exist.
 
Go about developing a better competing product rather than continually trying to effectively flog a dead horse with existing products that are clearly not deemed good value by many people.

A decent cheap, restriction free music download service at a good quality would cut music piracy hugely for example but such a thing does not exist.

Like iTunes/ iPlayer?
 
Isn't it more akin to waiting until the chippy is closed, then sneaking in at night and taking a five finger discount on a fish and quantity of chips then taking them home to cook in your own oven?

Good point although I am not sure.

Im sure other forume members willl enlighten us :)
 
Oh wait, I forgot about Spotify / Last.fm and the like. A vast proportion of my music these days is played through these programs. You pretty much have anything you want when you want. I love them.

A subscription based player where artists get a fee per played track would make me a happy chap. I already pay my Spotify and Last.fm subs, I'm just not 100% sure where the artists benefit from them. :(
 
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Dont be silly, he wants an all you can buffet for 99p a month. A sad culture we find ourselves in unfortunately.

Quite. We need to remember the music industry is there to make money. Yes I agree that the best way to tackle this is for them to develop some sort of fancy on-line distribution system, but they need to carefully consider the commercials and the risk DRM free media could present them.
 
I read that the TPB servers are not in Sweden but in a different country so it looks like they are indeed not prosecuted because of the site but because they di not remove suspected copyrighted torrents, but to get a year in prison for that is schocking to me
 
Whats with all the random examples lol, at the end of the day they have just been "owned" by the man havent they.

We know, and they know, and they know that we know its nonsense! if pirate bay did get taken down it would not do any good!
 
Quite. We need to remember the music industry is there to make money. Yes I agree that the best way to tackle this is for them to develop some sort of fancy on-line distribution system, but they need to carefully consider the commercials and the risk DRM free media could present them.

Undeniably true but when you consider that all the DRM they use and have tried has achieved nothing towards stopping piracy, what extra risk does no DRM truly present? It might make it easier to share things between friends but you can do that with CDs and the like anyway.

Thus surely, whilst I realise I am simplifying the issue considerably any better system they implement isn't likely to create a large amount more piracy what they need to do is find a balance point whereby the product is cheap enough to entice enough people back to legitimate buying but not so cheap everyone who buys CDs stops doing so.

If piracy is really the big problem and money loser they claim it is, this shouldn't really be too difficult a balance to find.
 
Why don't they just charge 10 quid a month for unlimited internet use and give that to the music and game companies much like they do with blank CD's/DVD's?
 
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