Gaming PC (£2000 Budget)

The 295 is basically 2 x 275's on one card, so technically it is 2 cards. 2 x 285's would be better, but a lot more expensive, almost £600 for 2 :eek:. As haj pointed out, 2 4890's would be a good option, cheaper than the 295 and will beat it in most games. I know you said you prefer nvidia, but ATi do offer some awesome cards. I've went back and forward from ATi and nvidia, have no preference, just buy the best card available.

I know this may sounds stupid, but the Geforce 295 is much better than the 4890 on benchmarks, for crysis and some other games.

ATI Radeon HD 4890 Turbo 1024MB GDDR5?
Would it be just one or can you run 2? SLI them? or is that only with the nvidia cards?
 
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I suppose it comes down to what you need your money for.

I have a perfectly suitable Gaming PC for less then 1/2 that cost. You don't need a solid state drive, you don't need a £130 PSU, you don't a £130 Case...etc :P

Saying that, I will no doubt have a gander at making you a PC for the silly amount of money you have requested :P

At the end of the day, it's down to how much money you have and how much of it you wish to apportion to a computer.

As someone said in a similar topic, I may be on £12,000 a year and want to spend half of one monthly budget on a computer, giving me a £500 rig. Someone else may be on £60,000 and wish to spend the same proportion of their income, giving a £5,000 computer. Overall, they still have £55,000 as opposed to my £11,500. If anything, I could be called irresponsible for spending such a high proportion, while for them it's no big deal.

There's absolutely nothing silly about an enthusiast or freelancer spending £2,000 on a computer. Most people spend more than that on a car they spend less time in and enjoy less. Just because you don't have that sort of cash spare, or if you do don't consider a computer to be important enough to you to spend it, is no reason to criticise someone else for it. Nor would I expect him to come into your <£1,000 build and laugh at you for only taking puny components.

It's an enthusiast forum and as such you can expect the big budgets at times, the whole point is to help others out with whatever their requirements are - I have fun speccing the big-money rigs I can't afford, like window shopping, and someone with a top-whack gaming rig may like to make a spec for me to see how much performance they can get on a budget, as a challenge.

Each to his own, live and let live etc.

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I know this may sounds stupid, but the Geforce 295 is much better than the 4890 on benchmarks, for crysis and some other games.

ATI Radeon HD 4890 Turbo 1024MB GDDR5?
Would it be just one or can you run 2? SLI them? or is that only with the nvidia cards?

The 295 is pretty much equivalent to the 4890, each is slightly faster in some games but they match each other pretty closely. Enough that you probably wouldn't notice the 2/3 fps difference :-)

You can use multiple cards together in much the same way as SLI - ATI call their version CrossFire (or CrossFireX now, I think, but whatever). You just need a different motherboard, since each board will only support SLI or CrossFire, not both.
 
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ATI Radeon HD 4890 Turbo 1024MB GDDR5?
Would it be just one or can you run 2? SLI them? or is that only with the nvidia cards?

SLi is the nvidia scaling platform, crossfire is ATi's version. Both work of the same principal. It's pretty much what the GTX295 and 4870x2 are, just on one card instead of 2.
 
The 295 is pretty much equivalent to the 4890, each is slightly faster in some games but they match each other pretty closely. Enough that you probably wouldn't notice the 2/3 fps difference :-)

You can use multiple cards together in much the same way as SLI - ATI call their version CrossFire (or CrossFireX now, I think, but whatever). You just need a different motherboard, since each board will only support SLI or CrossFire, not both.

The 295 and 4890 are not equal, the 4890 in crossfire is.

The X58 motherboards for i7 can support both SLi and crossfire, so no worries there.
 
I was talking about 2 x 4890's in crossfire, a 295 would beat one 4890, but not 2.

Ah nice, so you would change nothing apart from the Graphic card, from the specs that ro55o posted..


Audigex - You made a good point there and thanks.

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What do you think? Sorry for bad quality thats why im after a new monitor still stuck on a 1024x786 lol
 
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That looks awesome, but I would prefer the Silverstone Fortress to the Cosmos, just because I love the Fortress' look :D

Will check that out..

Also on benchmarks, GTX 295 isnt there, but the results for the 4890 x2 isnt as good as the GTX 285 http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/radeon-hd-4890,review-31546-7.html well from what I can see. Mabey on the higher res. 4890 takes the lead.

Also, which is better ATI card.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-126-XF - warrenty with this card, 2years, none with the other

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-110-HT&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1403 - card i chosen
 
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Will check that out..

Also on benchmarks, GTX 295 isnt there, but the results for the 4890 x2 isnt as good as the GTX 285 http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/radeon-hd-4890,review-31546-7.html well from what I can see. Mabey on the higher res. 4890 takes the lead.

Thats the 4890 vs the GTX285 (The 4870x2 is there, but the rest are single cards), it is behind the 285, but again the 285 is a better and more expensive card, but 2 x 4890 will beat a single 285 and a 295.

I wouldn't bother paying the extra for the HIS turbo edition, the cheaper asus has the voltage tweak and should see a very easy overclock, beyond the HIS.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-195-AS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1403
 
Ok this is my final choice...

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Might be changing monitor to 20" not sure, but they I will take out a asus if I do, pointless running crossfire on a 20". Want to test a 24" to see if its to big or not.

Thanks for all help to everyone who posted!
 
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Looks like a very nice spec the xfx ati cards are also very nice have the 4870 version runs very quiet as fan only usually on 14% temps at 60-70.

Also i would go for a the Be Quiet PSU range. If you do chose to go Corsair make sure its Modular.

Why 2 x 320GB HDD? You Raiding them? If Not go for the 1TB version and with that budget a SSD for OS or at least a Velociraptor
 
Looks like a very nice spec the xfx ati cards are also very nice have the 4870 version runs very quiet as fan only usually on 14% temps at 60-70.

Also i would go for a the Be Quiet PSU range. If you do chose to go Corsair make sure its Modular.

Why 2 x 320GB HDD? You Raiding them? If Not go for the 1TB version and with that budget a SSD for OS or at least a Velociraptor

I am going to put the 320GB drives into RAID0. Also changed to 1000w psu anyway, come in use if I ever added another graphic card.

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to put them in RAID 0, gives me 120GB worth of extremely fast storage for all your Apps, Games and more importantly your OS. then you've got the 1TB F1 disk for Data, i.e. pictures, music, video's.

why buy 2 4890's, an overclockable i7 up to 4.0ghz and then get bottlenecked by your albeit new old tech hard drives, your processor and GFX will be older before the SSD's will be
 
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