The Budget™ 2009

£500m to kick-start stalled housing projects - including £100m for local authorities to build energy efficient homes

Utterly worthless token gesture, at most it should be enough to lay a few bricks at every stalled site, the councils will loose 100million deciding on where to build and public enquires.

30K a head public lending (excellent name tbh, I'm pretty sure I haven't borrowed it :rolleyes:) aren't we on ? They would have been better giving us all 20K each to spend on the high street and saving the extra 10K.

We are run by nutters
 
I don't understand it. Someone who's driving a £500 tin can, even when given £2k is still not going to be able to afford to go out and buy a brand new car.

It may work, sure, but god there are so many more policies which would be more effective and persuade more people to go out and buy a new car.
 
Because it's for the green vote as well. Get low mpg old cars of the road and replace with new high mpg cars.

Typical Labour. Failing to mention the environmental damage caused by the disposal of all these old "low mpg" cars. They can claim whatever they want but it seems to me it has little to do with the environment.
 
Typical Labour. Failing to mention the environmental damage caused by the disposal of all these old "low mpg" cars. They can claim whatever they want but it seems to me it has little to do with the environment.
The problem is they still have control of the purse strings for another year :(.
 
its due to this

Britain commits to cut carbon emissions by 34% by 2020

as the time approaches they will be offering us 50K off a new house so long as we blow up our old one, They can build as many new eco houses as they want but it wont detract from the fact that existing housing stock is pumping it out at a steady rate. And to top it all off even if we suddenly overnight became a zero carbon country it would change global production by around 3%.

I'm not saying don't bother but it needs investment in low carbon, energy production technology to make existing house holders be able to afford it, which to be fair i've just seen they have given £400 million to, so there's at least 1 thing to give them credit for.
 
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I don't understand it. Someone who's driving a £500 tin can, even when given £2k is still not going to be able to afford to go out and buy a brand new car.

It may work, sure, but god there are so many more policies which would be more effective and persuade more people to go out and buy a new car.

That's one hell of an assumption. Until very recently I was driving around in a 9 year old tin can - I could quite easily have afforded a new car if I was that way inclined, as it happened I decided to buy a used car instead - if I was to get a £2k discount on top of what I could negotiate, I could well have been tempted to get a new car.

Also, my boss, who is considerably richer than me drives around in a 20 year old Sierra lol. In fact, not buying a new (used) car every 3 years means you save a hell of a lot of money in the mean time.

At the end of the day, if this scheme doesn't work (I think it will) then all that will happen is that government expenditure is a bit less than predicted in today's budget.
 
Surely people don't buy new cars though, we should set the troops free from motors to lambast these idiots for spending so much money on a vehicle when they could have got a much better, much higher spec used vehicle.
 
OK, so generally speaking a lot of people driving "tin cans" could afford to go out and buy a new car if they really wanted to. They're still going to have to shell out a few grand to upgrade their car, and the fact they've previously been driving a tin can would in most cases suggest they couldn't really care less about cars.
 
Also, my boss, who is considerably richer than me drives around in a 20 year old Sierra lol. In fact, not buying a new (used) car every 3 years means you save a hell of a lot of money in the mean time.
Yeah, one of my directors who is on a six figure salary and probably a millionaire (or will be when he retires) drives a 16 year old battered Rover. No point replacing if you don't need too really.

I will consider upgrading my crappy fiat when/if this financial help to buy a new electric car comes.
 
Praps that's what the plan is, Weld a load of steel plate to the old bangers (A team style) and ship them off to Afghanistan
 
Jokes aside even if they did that it's actually making the environment worse. Total emmisions would rise as a result of the government financially helping people to buy new cars.
 
To really tackle global warming, should incentives not be given to India and China to reduce their output ?

Although every little helps, I don't think the UK car industry and its user base are the main source of CO2 output.
 
Aye, I worry how Tory boy can get us out of a Recession, fact is every government has ****** it up hence why they get voted out every 10+ years.

Because it's getting to a point now where Labour are making things worse. I'd rather have a government not doing anything than one making things worse. As someone studying Economics at uni, I simply do not understand how anything in this budget is going to help the economy.
 
Jokes aside even if they did that it's actually making the environment worse. Total emmisions would rise as a result of the government financially helping people to buy new cars.

Yes, but the emissions of building new cars occur overseas, so we look good on the carbon front because the emissions occurring here will be lower.
 
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