Its not, its all just typical labour spin.
The Budget™ 2009
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Its not, its all just typical labour spin.
Why is the country dragged into the pits every time labour gets in then?
Tory boy, lol. It still amazes me how after 12 years of labour nonsense people still try and put the conservatives down.
Here's one person not ashamed to be a true blue and is looking forward to the next General Election
Bob on statement that... David Cameron wouldn't be able to do anything.. i remember reading something that David Cameron wrote in a news interview... went along these lines...
"blah blah the economy, Labour have messed it up... now i have studied economics at University and know a thing or two about it... Labour have ruined it.."
Sorry... OK you've studied economics... how are you going to fix it? Or are you just relying on clever smear tactics backed by Conservative media to get into power?
people bleat on about Labour this Labour that... what do the Conservative Party intend to do... cause so far all i've heard is "Labour messed this up, Labour messed that up... Gordon Brown said he saved the World *lolololoolololo*"
Tory boy, lol. It still amazes me how after 12 years of labour nonsense people still try and put the conservatives down.
Here's one person not ashamed to be a true blue and is looking forward to the next General Election
Rest assured... David "man in a shed" Cameron will bring a sandwich to a buffet for 100
Because media, banking, big business and the people in positions of power are all Conservative Party funding members... not going to stab them in the back are they]
Look for an article called: The Myth of Record Debt <-- pretty decent
I'm sure Labour would never stoop low enough to use smear tactics.
There is no quick fix to fix the economy, at least the tories aren't pretending there is.
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I wonder how Mr Cable would do as Chancellor ?
He talks a good fight but could he do the job ?
He talks a good fight but could he do the job ?
Rest assured... David "man in a shed" Cameron will bring a sandwich to a buffet for 100
Either that or: cut spending to sensible levels, trim the public sector to reasonable levels, not increase it to mask unemployment like labour did, have a sensible tax policy, and put VAT back up to where it was. But hey, don't let me stop the general OMG THEY'RE ALL THE SAME rhetoric from being banded around in here as per usual.
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Don't worry about the cost of the pathetic scrapping scheme, we are all being screwed out of the cost of it + more when fuel duty goes up AGAIN in September.
So in September, in the 14 months since Brown categorically stated there would be 'no fuel duty increases' fuel duty will have increased by 6p - an unprecedented rise over such a space of time.
So in September, in the 14 months since Brown categorically stated there would be 'no fuel duty increases' fuel duty will have increased by 6p - an unprecedented rise over such a space of time.
I see more smear coming from blue than red.
Neither are Labour... hence why in the Budget they are talking of a five year borrowing plan. 175bn, 140bn etc etc and as i've said... i don't see the University Economics educated "Dave" putting forward any ideas.
Lets just see what happens over the next year, if the economy doesn't contract between now and next May overrall... you can only assume Labour will have solved the problem which unfortunately the likelihood is the Conservatives will start getting all the Credit for
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Are you suggesting that a politician has been economical with the truth ?
On the scrappage scheme, will a £2000 incentive to buy a brand new car tempt me ? No.
You sure about that? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7995044.stm
"University Economics educated dave" probably isn't putting forward any ideas because there is very anything that can be done.
Labour aren't going to fix the problem. It is Labour's ridiculous borrowing that is responsible for our economy being worse than any other top economy, and their proposed solution is borrowing even more.
While we're on the subjects you mention:
Cutting spending: so therefore you will be cutting taxes correct? As surely if not as much spending is needed, why the need for high(ish) tax?
Unemployment: Conservatives can hardly talk about unemployment given the "iron" ladies approach throughout the 80's and Majors ignorance in the 90's. Wasn't it also Labour that in the last 11years had the lowest percentage of people unemployed since the 50's?
Sensible tax: flat rate allowing rich to get richer
VAT Back: stores may use this as a gimmick to just raise prices... i'm still seeking the magic .99 everywhere despite the VAT cut.
I'm not branding all Conservatives as the same, i for one support some policies they have, however i feel for me and my family i feel i'd be better under Labour
Only through number fiddling, just like crime rates and employing people in the public sector.
Cutting spending and keeping taxes at the level they are at now so the government will need to borrow less money and not cripple us with even more debt.
So Labour should be congratulated for having low unemployment because they happened to come into power in a time of boom?
The VAT probably hasn't changed because companies will be struggling to break even as it is so a slightly higher profit margin may help them.
Not to mention the Label cost. Cutting VAT was just more pointless Labour spin.
I'm positive about that, i've heard more negative about Labour from the British Broadcasting Conservative... Corp than anyone. Even when David Cameron started his "i'm a green choice" crap, it took a conserted effort for me to find on tinterweb the rest of the info from PMQT where Gordon Brown stood up afterwards and said "and also David Cameron cycling to work with a chauffeur driven car 10ft behind him out of view"... But we'll have to agree to disagree, we'll each see smears from each others party... human nature.
No there's nothing that can be done if thats what he's saying stop making out that he is so highly educated in the sector i've heard at least 2 news reports and read an article where he flaunts that he is so well educated in Economics... if you aren't going to put an idea on the table and cover it up that "you haven't got a clue what to do", then don't resort to the comments about a party that is at "least" making an effort to do or try something.
Worse than any other top economy? We have lower national debt than the US, we have lower national debt than France, Germany, Italy... so what top economies are you referring to? Russia if you class it as a top economy is only 60bn behind us in terms of national debt...
i will agree borrowing yet more is not a wise thing to do, and imo printing more money isn't either, Labour need to as someone said make spending cuts but in a way thats going to be productive for the Economy... for example i'd slash the cost of keeping prisoners (£50,000 per year i read) i'd make sure it was bread, water and fruit for meals, no TV, no electricity to cells... that'd shave a few tens of thousand off per con.
I forgot the Tories never fiddled numbers before either...
Crime rates... i'll say one thing... there are more people in prison now than there were in 1997... thats the only thing that can be actually stated as fact... figures on gun/knife etc crime can be fiddled... prison numbers are very difficult
Nothing wrong with employing some people to the public sector... all of my previous jobs have been dealing with unemployed people and provided the benefits they get they struggle on the more they will want to work.
You're joking right? BBC seems to be labour leaning if anything.