Fat Tax on Ryanair

I was at Alton Towers yesterday and they actually have a few "Double Harness" seats on some rides for big people.

On 2 rides I was on, a person was ejected as they were preventing the rest of the harnesses from locking properly.

Stupid in my opinion, if it is not for medical reasons, surely they should be forced to diet?
 
When my parents lived in France I often flew RyanAir or EasyJet as it was the cheapest. For a 1 hour 30 minute flight why would I need anything else?

I certainly never had any problems.
 
Gimpymoo said:
Stupid in my opinion, if it is not for medical reasons, surely they should be forced to diet?
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Why? You're stepping, nay gambolling gaily down a very treacherous path when you start forcing people to conform to a certain physical appearance or to stop behaviours that harm no one but themselves.

If someone is excessively overweight then generally speaking they will live for a shorter period of time, are more likely to suffer health problems as a result (although obviously the other extreme is not healthy either) and may well also suffer social stigma from their obesity but if that is their choice then so be it - frankly I wouldn't wish to trade places for that but nor do I think it fair to try and force them to conform. If people want help to diet then by all means give it to them but unless the motivation to lose weight comes from themselves it is somewhat of a futile effort to try and force them - it would also be rather unethical.
 
but if someone is fat, then why should everyone else bend to accomodate them? if i have to pay more to get into alton towers just so fatties can go on the rides, then yeah - i'm going to be annoyed.

same with air travel, weight costs money as it uses more fuel, if someone is sat next to me, taking up two seats because they don't fit into one and weighing much more than they should - then why the hell shouldn't they pay more? if not, then who should foot the bill? me? ha, i don't think so.
 
Dont see a problem with this. The heavier you are the more it will cost them due to added weight. Though calling it a fax tax isnt the smartest, bit of PR suicide alienated customers. Would make more sense having a combined luggage+person weight is they were going to go down the that route.
 
GeX said:
but if someone is fat, then why should everyone else bend to accomodate them? if i have to pay more to get into alton towers just so fatties can go on the rides, then yeah - i'm going to be annoyed.

same with air travel, weight costs money as it uses more fuel, if someone is sat next to me, taking up two seats because they don't fit into one and weighing much more than they should - then why the hell shouldn't they pay more? if not, then who should foot the bill? me? ha, i don't think so.
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truth people need to stop pussyfooting
 
I used to fly with Ryanair but now can't be bothered I'd rather pay the extra to fly from Brussels.

The straw came when I bought duty free at christmas and the security guard at prestwick made me put my manbag in the carrier bag with the duty free since we were only "allowed" 1 piece of hand luggage.

Now I know some people take the mick with hand baggage but asking me to put my bag in a carrier bag was insane. I questioned it and was told they had be forced to say this by Ryanair.

Not flown with them again. Also their site tries to trip you up at every click of the mouse.

They used to be great a cheap way to get from A to B but now their eternal greed just sickens me.
 
From all the money there making why can't they get someone to re-do the website? It looks like someone's GCSE IT project.
 
vertica said:
But Micheal O'Leary is such a brilliant buissnessman this just isn't going to happen!

Take september 2001, post 9/11, loads of airlines cancelled there plane orders with boeing, so he went along and said i'll take them at half the asking price, and boeing said yes!

He says what he means and doesn't talk nonsense to the press. and he also knows exactly how to get peoples money.

If you are travelling on ryanair, book well in advance, decline to take their insurance, check in online and have hand luggage only, it is increadible cheap. I've flown all over europe and paid £0.01 each way or taxes only etc.

It would not suprise me if he charged the obese, he already charges the stupid! - If you are going somewhere with hold luggage and are not web litterate it can cost you a fortune. As you will accept their insurance about £10 each way, you will pay to check in inthe airport £8 each way iirc, you wont have remebered to pay for a bag £20 pound to check in at the airport. your bag will be overweight (now €25 a kg i think), the list goes on. whcih means you can end up paying more than £100 ontop of your flight and taxes if you dont know what you are doing, which is very clever buisness if somewhat unethical!
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It's no so much fun if Ryanair is your only choice and you have to take a bag.

Charging a handling fee per person (originally called a credit card fee but I'm sure that was legally challenged since they changed it) is correct when their is a service but since their is no service at all involved and they don't handle you at all it's a cheek.

You are right though if you plan on taking luggage in the hold you might as well fly with BA (which is what I'll be doing in the future) :D despite having to stop in Manchester to get a connecting flight since BA doesn't fly anywhere direct from north of Manchester.
 
Telescopi said:
£20 to check in luggage ?!

I can see it's a cost, staff have to load it, but for that much you could ship your bags to the hotel in advance and save money :)
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I actually looked into doing this at christmas you are right it was only about 10 quid dearer lol
 
I'm no fan of Ryanair, but I like this idea.
There's nothing worse than being sat in your seat, and seeing a fatty waddle down the isle and take the seat next to you. It makes your journey much more uncomfortable.
In fact, just make them buy two seats if they're too large to fit in one!
 
If you are to believe national statistics 76 per cent of males over 45 in UK are overweight. Depending on source and year of stats, a minimum of a small fraction over 50% of adults (18 or over) in this country are overweight. Keeping that in mind any action against obese people is action against majority of customers. It also means that the malnurished teenager who asked "why should everyone else bend to accomodate fatty fatty fat fats" question has three in four chance he will be riding Alton Towers in double harness by the time he had adapted to the rest of fat society enough to be able to afford family.

But to be honest - in the land of size 16 women and 40 inch waist men any company that mislabels XXL tags on 46 chest shirts, doesn't do jeans over 36" as well as any buffoon Irish that tries to charge for weight pretty much deserves what's coming to their business.
 
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v0n said:
It also means that the malnurished teenager who asked "why should everyone else bend to accomodate fatty fatty fat fats" question has three in four chance he will be riding Alton Towers in double harness by the time he had adapted to the rest of fat society enough to be able to afford family.
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is that aimed at me? I'm a 24 year old chef, i know exactly how to eat healthily and look after my body - and won't be needing a fatty fat fat harness to ride on a rollercoaster.

Ok, let's not call it Fat Tax, let's give people who weigh around what they are supposed to discounts, considering it costs less to transport them?

there is also a clear distinction between being over weight and being obese, and i don't care that it's not your fault bla bla, it certainly isn't mine so why should i fork out more for it?
 
tripitaka said:
I'm no fan of Ryanair, but I like this idea.
There's nothing worse than being sat in your seat, and seeing a fatty waddle down the isle and take the seat next to you. It makes your journey much more uncomfortable.
In fact, just make them buy two seats if they're too large to fit in one!
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I work in Travel and we booked a a very large lady a few years back who had to buy 2 seats! she was HUGE though!
 
Nexus said:
Agreed, I had a long weekend in Barcelona for £17 return.
All I needed was my pack which I took on the plane with me.

The bus fare from the airport to Barcelona was more expensive than the flight! You can have that carbon footprint and eat it!

You don't have to buy any of the extras, and I've traveled both Ryan Air and Easyjet and neither is 'more comfortable' than the other. Ryan Air just has a somewhat more garish colour scheme on board and the annoying adverts selling suff.
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Or you could have gone with Easyjet, and not paid as many charges for extra baggage (although they are starting to get cheeky now too) and actually landed at Barcelona airport, then spent €3 for the train to the city centre... Ryanair can be a false economy sometimes.

v0n said:
If you are to believe national statistics 76 per cent of males over 45 in UK are overweight. Depending on source and year of stats, a minimum of a small fraction over 50% of adults (18 or over) in this country are overweight. Keeping that in mind any action against obese people is action against majority of customers. It also means that the malnurished teenager who asked "why should everyone else bend to accomodate fatty fatty fat fats" question has three in four chance he will be riding Alton Towers in double harness by the time he had adapted to the rest of fat society enough to be able to afford family.

But to be honest - in the land of size 16 women and 40 inch waist men any company that mislabels XXL tags on 46 chest shirts, doesn't do jeans over 36" as well as any buffoon Irish that tries to charge for weight pretty much deserves what's coming to their business.
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Overweight /= Obese. So no, a "fat tax" targeting the obese would not affect over 50% of the population, more like 20%. And as for over 36 and 16, those sizes probably cater for the vast majority of people in this country (say 80%) as the average size for a woman at least is 12..
 
Amp34 said:
And as for over 36 and 16, those sizes probably cater for the vast majority of people in this country (say 80%) as the average size for a woman at least is 12..
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Which is why it is absolutely stunning to find most high street shops (even those that stop at size 46 in US, like GAP or Next) stock trousers only between 30 and 36 waist and most jeans manufacturers don't actually import anything bigger than 38 in waist for UK market (once again - 42" Timberland cargos, not a problem in US, not available in official outlets in UK).
 
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