Fat Tax on Ryanair

loose some weight if your too fat to fit into the jeans that are avaible, or don't wear jeans.

we shouldn't be accomodating obesisty, we should be discouraging it.
 
From all the money there making why can't they get someone to re-do the website? It looks like someone's GCSE IT project.

It is actually. Well..... it was a student project and although it has had some additional work done apparently the basic structure and design remains the same. Works though.
 
...dont forget the additional charge in the event the aircraft has to make an emergency landing---£1 to open the emergency exit and a further £1 if you want to deploy the emergency chute.......

Can't remember the charge if you need oxygen mask during the flight.....
 
I'm all for it, if lighter passangers get a slight discount because of it, but due to the fact they won't I'm against it...

What airlines really need to do is set a total allowance, for both passenger and baggage, say 100kg, that would be fair and benefit most people!


this tbh...

how can they justify charging excessive amounts if your suit case is a few kgs over the limit when some fat piece of **** who weighs 10st more than you can waddle onto the aircraft, take up both arm rests and gets to pay exactly the same amount as you for a ticket.
 
I used to fly Ryanair from Derry to Stansted all the time and they always used to be great (at least until you get to Stansted), over the last year or so though I've preferred to travel for an hour and half to Belfast and use Sleazyjet rather than put another penny in that scumbag o'Learys' pocket.
 
loose some weight if your too fat to fit into the jeans that are avaible, or don't wear jeans.

we shouldn't be accomodating obesisty, we should be discouraging it.

We should also be discouraging illiteracy but no-one's beaking at you are they?
 
Which is why it is absolutely stunning to find most high street shops (even those that stop at size 46 in US, like GAP or Next) stock trousers only between 30 and 36 waist and most jeans manufacturers don't actually import anything bigger than 38 in waist for UK market (once again - 42" Timberland cargos, not a problem in US, not available in official outlets in UK).

Eh?

So a company that sells what 80+% of the population in this country want is stupid? Why make and stock sizes that won't sell (or sell very few) when you can give that space to stuff that will sell well. Companies selling clothing that range 2-3 sizes either size of the average size makes perfect sense to me. The same argument could be made for longer/shorter jeans, why only have 30-32 and 34 inch jeans (if your lucky)?
 
I won't comment on Ryanair and their business practices, and I know better then most since I've worked for them!!

But the smoking in a converted toilet is just a stupid idea. There should be NO fire onboard an aircraft, no matter how small! It is the one thing that is most dangerous to the aircraft!!
 
loose some weight if your too fat to fit into the jeans that are avaible, or don't wear jeans.

That's again, something that only a thin teenager working on caffeine could say. "loose some weight" is as an answer is somewhere there in a pantheon of childlish, naive suggestions like "change tanks for flowers" or "stop the cars, save the planet".

Thanks god we have guys like you, ready to solve our issues, otherwise 50% of nation not fitting in 36 size jeans would be lost. Science knew it was out there somewhere, just couldn't put the finger on it. Now, the problem is solved - people just need to loose some weight. Brilliant. Just brilliant. I'll call Nobel Foundation.
 
So a company that sells what 80+% of the population in this country want is stupid? Why make and stock sizes that won't sell (or sell very few) when you can give that space to stuff that will sell well.

You weren't paying attention. 50% of adults and 76% of men over 45 don't fit in size 36 or below.

I'm with you on a length front though - just look at Simon Cowell, the man could do with shorter pants and yet it look like no money can buy in this country. ;)
 
That's again, something that only a thin teenager working on caffeine could say. "loose some weight" is as an answer is somewhere there in a pantheon of childlish, naive suggestions like "change tanks for flowers" or "stop the cars, save the planet".

Thanks god we have guys like you, ready to solve our issues, otherwise 50% of nation not fitting in 36 size jeans would be lost. Science knew it was out there somewhere, just couldn't put the finger on it. Now, the problem is solved - people just need to loose some weight. Brilliant. Just brilliant. I'll call Nobel Foundation.

riiiight, you are wrong in part of what you say. It is not something only a thin teenager working on caffeine could say. As I said, i am 24 year old chef. I've not been a teenage for 5 years now - i wouldn't say i was thin either, i would say i am a healthy weight for my height (snip under 14st).

You've failed to grasp what i'm saying i think. If someone who is a over-weight or obese wants to wear jeans, then what is wrong with loosing a bit of weight? Why should the manufacturers alter their product to suit? The companies that make jeans and the like aren't idiots, if there was sufficent demand for the larger sizes then they would make them as there would be more money to be made by them - certainly if 50% of the population had waists bigger than 36" then they would have accomodated that by now.

I'm not sure which newspaper your stats have come from, but they are flawed and no basis for a discussion.
 
As I said, i am 24 year old chef. I've not been a teenage for 5 years now - i wouldn't say i was thin either, i would say i am a healthy weight for my height (snip under 14st).

Look around you industry. How many people in your own work line, even in celebrity circles, people who by trade "know exactly how to eat healthily and look after their body" as you put it that aren't overweight, obese or straight fatty fatty fat fats when they reach midpoint in their lifespan? Statistically, in your line of work, your 14st in about as maintainable as Nigela Lawson's bottox face expression. You are lucky to be your weight now, the time will come you won't have health, time and passion to do as much coffee and bike rides and odds are, unfortunately, against you.

If someone who is a over-weight or obese wants to wear jeans, then what is wrong with loosing a bit of weight?

Once again, thanks lord for easy solutions. Make sure to tell others, cause like 75% of men twice your age still don't know all they had to do was to drop some weight.

Why should the manufacturers alter their product to suit? The companies that make jeans and the like aren't idiots, if there was sufficent demand for the larger sizes then they would make them as there would be more money to be made by them - certainly if 50% of the population had waists bigger than 36" then they would have accomodated that by now.

And yet they don't. They do in US, they do in Germany, but in UK, they still offer metrosexual sizes - I mean come on - who wears 34 length x 28 waist - Elle McPherson? Russell Brand after week on crack?.

I'm not sure which newspaper your stats have come from, but they are flawed and no basis for a discussion.

Look around mate. Go outside and look around. Or if you live in London go to places like Essex and Kent. And just look. That army of tracksuit cookie monsters. Nothing else fits them.
 
Look around you industry. How many people in your own work line, even in celebrity circles, people who by trade "know exactly how to eat healthily and look after their body" as you put it that aren't overweight, obese or straight fatty fatty fat fats when they reach midpoint in their lifespan? Statistically, in your line of work, your 14st in about as maintainable as Nigela Lawson's bottox face expression. You are lucky to be your weight now, the time will come you won't have health, time and passion to do as much coffee and bike rides and odds are, unfortunately, against you.

Just because you see it on TV, it does not mean that that is how it is in real-life. In the kitchen i work in, there is only one guy with a fat belly - and when you see what he chooses to eat, it is understandable why. Everyone else, ranging from 15 to 55 - is not what can be called a fatty fat fat.


Once again, thanks lord for easy solutions. Make sure to tell others, cause like 75% of men twice your age still don't know all they had to do was to drop some weight.

I'm sure they know they should loose weight, just find it difficult. I'm not trying to tell anyone how to loose weight, that is up to them to work out. But, back on topic - just because they can't find time, why should I pay more for air travel? (bonus argument, more weight means more fuel, means more horrible nasty jet exhaust.. who foots that bill? Why everyone of course..)


And yet they don't. They do in US, they do in Germany, but in UK, they still offer metrosexual sizes - I mean come on - who wears 34 length x 28 waist - Elle McPherson? Russell Brand after week on crack?.

They do in the US because over there they are much fatter than we are over here, I don't know about Germany - so can't comment in that respect. I agree with the influx of skinny jeans tho - that is daft. I also can't say i've ever had trouble finding a decent pair of jeans when out shopping though.

Look around mate. Go outside and look around. Or if you live in London go to places like Essex and Kent. And just look. That army of tracksuit cookie monsters. Nothing else fits them.

I live up North, where i am at the moment there isn't another soul for erm.. probably 10 miles. If i go the nearest town (Penrith) then I doubt i'd see the army of tracksuit cookie monsters there either, is the south fatter than the north?
 
You weren't paying attention. 50% of adults and 76% of men over 45 don't fit in size 36 or below.

I'm with you on a length front though - just look at Simon Cowell, the man could do with shorter pants and yet it look like no money can buy in this country. ;)

Erm no, you said 50% were obese, and I correctly pointed out that overweight is not obese... Most people who are overweight can easily fit into 36 jeans, proven by the number of fat people in jeans.

And if your statement was correct don't you think that companies would be loosing a huge amount of sales, which they would grasp onto by increasing the sizes? As they havent there obviously isn't a market for it (most likely because there aren't that many fat people who can't fit into 36" jeans around)
 
They do in the US because over there they are much fatter than we are over here, I don't know about Germany - so can't comment in that respect. I agree with the influx of skinny jeans tho - that is daft. I also can't say i've ever had trouble finding a decent pair of jeans when out shopping though.


I live up North, where i am at the moment there isn't another soul for erm.. probably 10 miles. If i go the nearest town (Penrith) then I doubt i'd see the army of tracksuit cookie monsters there either, is the south fatter than the north?

Germany is almost as bad as the US in the size stakes, we lag behind both, unless to believe vons stats that 76% of men over 45 are obese, in that case we are far ahead of both.
 
I suspect Germans were a tad on the large side, but wasn't sure on that one - so didn't want to say anything.
 
You pay £10 to check in luggage. If you're checking in luggage you can't use the £5 online checkin and have to pay the £10 checkin fee. Hence £20

You don't pay to check in online, only to check in at the airport. It's pretty easy to get round the fees for Ryanair, I paid £30 for return flights from Edinburgh to Dublin for two people and that's probably one of their more expensive advance fares!
 
Just looking at the NHS statistics, 24% of adults are classed as obese and 36% as overweight. And "only" a maximum of 40% of men under 54 have a raised waist measurement (only 10% in the 16-24 age range). 32% of men overall, including the over 55's (who generally don't wear jeans, and are shown to have a larger waist circumference).

Now bearing in mind at 6'2 I would probably be classed as overweight if I fitted into 36" jeans, and that the average height for men is about 5'10-11, that means most overweight people are significantly shorter than me, and so (with poor evidence) will easily fit into the jeans that are available today.

28" jeans with 34" leg? I've never seen those before, I used to have trouble getting a 34 inch leg in 32" a few years ago, and there were never any below.

EDIT: Unfortunately they don't show quantatively waist size, and also the north is actually fatter than the south, according to the paper.
 
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Erm no, you said 50% were obese, and I correctly pointed out that overweight is not obese... Most people who are overweight can easily fit into 36 jeans, proven by the number of fat people in jeans.
Overweight (not obese) is BMI of 26 and above, right? That's automatically over 36 in waist. So, regular bone structure, 80kg, 174cm, 36" waist male. Anything above is overweight. I left size 36" (and most of high street shops) behind only eight years ago, so the memory is still fresh. Up until 90kg I could fit in 38", at 118kg now I almost do not fit size 40" and have considerable slack (enough to pull it down from my waist buttoned up) in US Levis jeans size 42".

And if your statement was correct don't you think that companies would be loosing a huge amount of sales, which they would grasp onto by increasing the sizes? As they havent there obviously isn't a market for it (most likely because there aren't that many fat people who can't fit into 36" jeans around)
I'm sure they do. In late nineties, many "designer" companies, including UK GAP and Next decided to downsize from XXL being 51-52 inch in chest to Asian "tall but slim" XXL guide - meaning 48" in chest but longer in size. That 5-10cm difference pretty much affects my shopping patterns to this day. Because UK shops don't usually do triple or quadruple XLs any man of muscular or fat build suddenly found their shirts fitting slightly too Lilly Savage for reasonable taste, suits or jackets in 50 or 52 regular or tall became extinct almost over night and the market suddenly changed into "UK camp" metrics where I fit XL shirts from Orvis or XL sweats from Weird Fish but need XXXL jumpers from M&S. Or, like the rest of nation, could settle for "baggy tracksuit pants" for £5 from "Primani".
 
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