Manager Of The Year

Moyes - but then I might be slightly biased. Hopefully next season we'll have a better start and seriously push for a 4th place spot rather than scrapping with Villa for 5th.
 
andybtsn said:
What with already a quality squad? I could have gone there and done better than that clown Ramos
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I would go for Redknapp also, can't remember who posted it but if the Premiership started since he took over Spurs would be 5th (and since Palacios signed 3rd). Not bad as when he took over they had no morale or confidence.
 
The Pat said:
I would go for Redknapp also, can't remember who posted it but if the Premiership started since he took over Spurs would be 5th (and since Palacios signed 3rd). Not bad as when he took over they had no morale or confidence.
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We can get more milage out of this...... if the season had started 10 games ago our match against Man U tomorrow would be a 1st versus 2nd game :D

/ ok I'll stop now :o
 
drunkenmaster said:
If it has to be Premiership manager, O'neill would have got it if he didn't turn into a scared little Wenger and switch to 4-5-1 in the hope to hold onto 4th, rather than continue to attack teams non stop which got them to 4th in the first place. Something like 10 from 12 in the few games they've played 4-4-2 this year and 4-5-1 they've not won in 11 games or something ridiculous. I laugh at ARsenal fans, since Villa got ahead of us they've basically not won and we've only got a 3 game lead, had Villa won even a few of those games we'd still be in a fight to the death for 4th, Villa utterly threw it away.
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This is true.

Mostly.

Our slump also corresponds to the time when both Laursen and Cuellar have been injured. I don't demonise Zat Knight like some do, and I think he's largely done ok, but he is directly responsible for at least three games I can think of where we've conceded needlessly and lost points because of it. I don't think this should be overlooked when considering how badly we've faltered.

Also, the switch to 4-5-1 wasn't entirely voluntary. Or not so simply so as you make out. It was down to Carew being injured, Harewood finally being deemed surplus to requirements and more recently Heskey also not being fit.

Now, there were other options - I would personally have preferred to see us kick on in an attacking vein with Delfounso up front with Gabby, or failing that then Ashley Young. I can understand why MON didn't do this (Young is our main threat from midfield and the Fonz is still very inexperienced), but I think it would have shown more bottle - and it certainly couldn't have done us any worse!
 
naknakkus said:
Moyes or Hodgson, I think.
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Forgot about Hodgeson, has done very very well with a limited but not tiny budget, he's got some very very good players in for great value, got them playing well and only really lack a proper striker to go alongside Johnson. The only thing is Zamora, just that one buy probably stops him getting it, how did he not know how much of a turd he is.


As for Chong making such a big deal about Palacios and Keane, Palacios as signing of the season, miles away from it he wasn't cheap it wasn't a coup, no one wanted to spend that big money on him in Jan, Harry spunked money again which is unsurprising. As for Keane, he wanted out, Benitez wanted rid of him, Spurs was his only real choice as Liverpool wanted to essentially cancel out what they owed and was the only team they'd get a good deal with. generally Benitez had made it abundantly clear he wouldn't be playing him properly, didn't want him, without Spurs making an offer he would have gone somewhere else for a bargain price, Spurs situation and being able to simply wipe out what they owed Spurs was how they managed to get such a good price for a player they wanted to get rid of.

You could argue both players were bought far to "easily" for far more than they should have been. 3 wins turned to draws/losses and you'd still be just above relegation.

Its not like spurs got Harry with a huge portion of the season gone. Often, say in Hodgesons situation last year, maybe Shearer now managers get fired more than half way into a season with the new manager very little/no time to sort anything out or bring in new players. there were 90 points available to be won when Redknapp arived at Spurs, it was hardly an impossible job for a team that should have been challenging for Europe to start off with. He's also spent a bundle, on a team thats had a bundle spent on it for years.

Ramos has won 17 games on the trot for Real madrid is it in the league getting them right up there with Barca, he's hardly poor, he most likely would have vastly improved and was mostly unlucky. Remember both your two "huge" signings were awful to start off with and needed games and have become very important both having significant influence on the points you've gotten since then, both Ramos buy's who have come good who were woeful to start.

Manager of the season, not even remotely close, Moyes, Hodgeson, Pulis, O'neill, Zola, S'bragia have all done FAR superior jobs imho. All for varying reasons, most with significantly worse teams, significantly smaller budgets all doing far better considering they team they have. O'neill has lost several key people this year including their single most important player and spent what, 1mil on heskey in Jan. Hodgeson not sure he spent anything, Zola, S'bragia have simply had to turn around the teams they had and they have done that impressively.

Infact, Zola might be manager of the year for me, some truly brilliant football being played before they got a bunch of injuries, doing great in the table, very little investment, playing "proper" football, attacking everyone for a manager in his first year.
 
The Pat said:
I would go for Redknapp also, can't remember who posted it but if the Premiership started since he took over Spurs would be 5th (and since Palacios signed 3rd). Not bad as when he took over they had no morale or confidence.
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So Redknapp has done what was expected of Spurs before the season start, for a top 6 finish? What's unusual about that, he's spent a lot of money on new players adding to a very good squad already.

If compared to Moyes, well then Moys has spent basically nothing throughout season (only bringing in Fellaini), lost main striker Yakubu very early on, then lost Vaughan and Anchiabe to injuries, Saha also out for the majority of the season. So basically a team with no strikers challeneging 5th, pretty damn good managing if you ask me.

THEN...injury to best player Arteta, FA Cup final on the way, etc etc etc.
 
^^ And for all the over-use of adjectives like "solid" and "workmanlike" to describe them, Everton actually play some really nice football at times.

I'm amazed that Moyes still doesn't seem to be getting the credit he deserves, tbh.
 
The Pat said:
I would go for Redknapp also, can't remember who posted it but if the Premiership started since he took over Spurs would be 5th (and since Palacios signed 3rd). Not bad as when he took over they had no morale or confidence.
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Well surely Everton would still be above them because they had a shocker of a start as well.

It has to be Moyes for me this year. Never that fond of his buys but what he's gotten from his side this year no one has got near. Certainly not redknapp. Just have a look at the players on the everton bench to see what he has to work with.
 
Everton have done an amazing job seeing as they seem to have played over 50% of the season without a striker. Unlike some other managers being mentioned Moyes didn't have significant funds to reinforce in January.
 
dannyjo22 said:
Well surely Everton would still be above them because they had a shocker of a start as well.

It has to be Moyes for me this year. Never that fond of his buys but what he's gotten from his side this year no one has got near. Certainly not redknapp. Just have a look at the players on the everton bench to see what he has to work with.
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Exactly.

Didn't Redknapp spend something like £40m in January? I don't think any other team in world football spent that much.
 
Visionary said:
Exactly.

Didn't Redknapp spend something like £40m in January? I don't think any other team in world football spent that much.
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Including add-ons, the reported figure is £44mil.

However, the amount they really spent was a lot less. I doubt we paid more than £5mil in cash for Keane, Defoe and Chimbonda combined. The only proper signing of note was Palacios at a silly £14mil. Good player but very expensive.

I'd probably go with Hodgson. He's terribly underrated.
 
Hodgson. Gollum's done a good job also but Everton haven't progressed any where near as much as Fulham have this season. Hodgson took over with Fulham on the verge of going down and now they're pushing for Europe.
 
Palacious signing of the season? Don't make me laugh. Sure he's a good player and EXACTLY what spurs needed but that doesn't make him signing of the season.

Even James Beattie has been a better buy and he's just arrived, yet is the main reason why Stoke are still in the premier league.

Btw, he got an assist for stoke last weekend to set up their winning goal.

You nominate your own manager for manager of the season as well as one of your own players for signing of the season? No bias there.

Imo

Manger of the year- Roy H
Signing of the year- M Schwarzer (free transfer)
Player of the year- M Schwarzer/ Frank Lampard
 
drunkenmaster said:
S'bragia have simply had to turn around the teams they had and they have done that impressively.
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I wouldn't say RS was impressive, yeah we beat Hull and west brom in his first 2 games but after that we've lost a lot of games, we'd never won a game for 7 games before beating Hull last weekend. Also He's been ultra cautious, 4-5-1 at home against Wigan???

Manager of the season will go to Hiddink if they win the Champions League IMO, failing that I'd give it to Pulis
 
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