Going for a walk.. along a 60 MPH road

PMKeates · 26 Apr 2009 at 18:57

Around where I live, most of the people who ride horses are either gypsies or general scum. You'd be luck to not get spat at.

This Side Up · 26 Apr 2009 at 18:58

PMKeates said:
Either way, who the hell is clueless enough to walk their entire family along a 60 mph road that people do drive fast on, taking up an entire lane?

I wouldn't worry about it for too long, mate. Chances are if they keep this up they wont be alive long enough to polute the gene pool any further.

Survival of the fittest etc.

I love the reply about not being an NSL whilst her kids are on it.. really makes me laugh. She will learn her lesson the hard way.

I just feel sorry for the boor bugger who runs into that family - the repair bill must be astronomical.

Burnsy2023 · 26 Apr 2009 at 18:58

I would have rung the Police on the non emergency number. Rather they get a lesson on road safety than a funeral to go to.

PMKeates · 26 Apr 2009 at 19:03

Burnsy2023 said:
I would have rung the Police on the non emergency number. Rather they get a lesson on road safety than a funeral to go to.

When I got home I actually thought about that.. even ringing the emergency number. Arguably, those kids were placed in immediate danger by their parents.

http://cms.met.police.uk/met/boroughs/kingston_upon_thames/06advice_and_support/when_to_dial_999 - here it says dial 999 when "a serious injury may occur". At a stretch this fits the bill.

[TW]Fox · 26 Apr 2009 at 19:11

Sounds like the problem was you driving around country lanes at a speed in which you can barely stop in the distance you can see to be clear. NSL doesnt mean do 60 everywhere.

Pixel · 26 Apr 2009 at 19:13

I was cruising down Silver Street in Lincoln at a steady 20mph on a Saturday night, the road was pretty much empty, but this street is drunken tard central so you've got to be careful. Some moron walks into the road (to cross it) without even looking, I missed him by about 2 feet after braking hard.

As if that wasn't bad enough, after I honked the horn at him and told him to get off the road, he started chasing me down the street while trying to punch my car.

PMKeates · 26 Apr 2009 at 19:14

[TW]Fox;13961216 said:
Sounds like the problem was you driving around country lanes at a speed in which you can barely stop in the distance you can see to be clear. NSL doesnt mean do 60 everywhere.

At the speed I was going, I could have stopped easily and well before where they were. However, if I had crap stopping power, equally bad reactions and a panicy attitude, it may not have been the case.

Duke · 26 Apr 2009 at 19:17

PMKeates said:
I roll along, so slow that the engine is working harder to run the climate control than move the car, with this fatso flailing his porky limbs as fast as he can. I rapidly get bored, speed off, hopefully having managed to spit some grit in his face.

Genuine LOL

Howard · 26 Apr 2009 at 19:20

PMKeates said:
Well, I flew back to the UK yesterday, but I spent most of the day sleeping. So, today, I thought I'd better go for a drive; mainly to get used to operating a transmission manually, and driving on the "right" side of the road again

I did this when I got home after driving for two weeks in Florida. To be fair, I was used to it by the time I'd gotten to the end of my road

I did enjoy driving back here though!

Can't say I've ever encountered people walking in the road while hooning though. Horses, yes, but I always see them in plenty of time and slow down and pop it into 4th/5th, most of the time I get a smile/wave! People aren't too unfriendly around here, and the chavs seem to stick to their housing estates!

doofer · 26 Apr 2009 at 19:23

If you phone the Police, will you be telling them exactly what you have typed about this incident here?

..and then a sprint along some back roads. While going along at maybe... 60 mph..

..a car coming the other way, and I have to brake pretty hard (though not an emergency brake) to be able to nip safely in to the other lane..

..it was pretty much 60. It's hard to go much faster as the road is pretty windy and bumptastic in places..

Now, consider they have every right to be walking on that lane (I could understand if they were walking along a stretch of the M6..) as lanes don't usually have foot-paths for people to walk on.

Who exactly do you think the Police would be more interested in having a word with?

[TW]Fox · 26 Apr 2009 at 19:25

PMKeates said:
At the speed I was going, I could have stopped easily and well before where they were

There is a car coming the other way, and I have to brake pretty hard

I was kinda hoping your run in with the police a while back would put an end to your driving around like you are in some sort of GP all the time. I guess not

Moeks · 26 Apr 2009 at 19:26

InvaderGIR said:
and also the woman and her pram are a lot smaller than your sodding car!

You should see some of the women with prams around here! ...a small truck would make a better comparison.

Janesy B · 26 Apr 2009 at 19:31

Gotta agree with some people. If you had to brake sharply you were going too fast. You should be able to see and react to hazards without having to pull up sharply. I'm no saint but had you mowed them down, you would have been in the wrong.

PMKeates · 26 Apr 2009 at 19:37

doofer said:
Now, consider they have every right to be walking on that lane (I could understand if they were walking along a stretch of the M6..) as lanes don't usually have foot-paths for people to walk on.

They have privilege to be walking along the lane, the same as I have every privilege to be driving along it at 60. The difference is I wasn't throwing children, so young they can't walk using their own will, in front of me.

I am not responsible for the safety of those children - their parents are. The road has a national speed limit. You have to reasonably expect people could be driving that fast on it. Knowing that fact, would you think it perfectly OK to push your kids along it? You could argue we were both operating within the law, but I was doing the more common thing and "driving" on the NSL road, rather than taking a merry death-stroll along it.

jamoor · 26 Apr 2009 at 19:38

Meridian · 26 Apr 2009 at 19:43

Is it me, or is there a lot of people here admitting driving Without Due Care and Attention? The whole point of driving properly is to expect the unexpected - as my passengers at RR8 will testify - so the fact the road is full of fat pedestrians or people on horses should not phaze you in the slightest if you are driving properly. If it does cause you to "brake sharply" then you were driving too fast. Believe it or not, pedestrians are perfectly entitled to use the road. Of course they're not supposed to be more than two abreast, but that does not negate my basic point.

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PMKeates · 26 Apr 2009 at 19:43

[TW]Fox;13961302 said:
I was kinda hoping your run in with the police a while back would put an end to your driving around like you are in some sort of GP all the time. I guess not

There's a big difference between braking hard - as in, harder than you normally would to slow - and braking at an emergency level. Kids in prams on NSLs is not an everday occurance - a "hard" but non-emergency brake is pretty much what anyone at almost any legal speed would have done, no?

Janesy B said:
Gotta agree with some people. If you had to brake sharply you were going too fast. You should be able to see and react to hazards without having to pull up sharply. I'm no saint but had you mowed them down, you would have been in the wrong.

How could I have not broke harder than normal? Do you propose I.. drive the road at 20? That's not realistic from anyone, so don't expect that!

Seeing a reacting to hazards without pulling up sharply is not a problem. Finding a family on a frolic along an NSL road is a bit more than a typical "hazard", it's insanity from a parenting perspective.

Janesy B · 26 Apr 2009 at 19:50

I see your point but, it's their stupidity but you have to take it into account. You are not entitled to do 60 on that road, the only entitlement you have is to be driving at the appropriate speed for that road.

PMKeates · 26 Apr 2009 at 19:50

Meridian said:
Is it me, or is there a lot of people here admitting driving Without Due Care and Attention? The whole point of driving properly is to expect the unexpected - as my passengers at RR8 will testify - so the fact the road is full of fat pedestrians or people on horses should not phaze you in the slightest if you are driving properly. If it does cause you to "brake sharply" then you were driving too fast. Believe it or not, pedestrians are perfectly entitled to use the road. Of course they're not supposed to be more than two abreast, but that does not negate my basic point.

I disagree. There's expecting the unexpected, then there's unrealistic things to expect. I don't think I have ever seen another person walking on this road.. probably because even the thickest of people wouldn't walk very far along it before thinking "hmm, this is a little dangerous".

I, personally, was not phased by it. They seemingly took offence to me going past at more than walking pace.

PMKeates · 26 Apr 2009 at 19:56

Janesy B said:
I see your point but, it's their stupidity but you have to take it into account. You are not entitled to do 60 on that road, the only entitlement you have is to be driving at the appropriate speed for that road.

Define the appropriate speed? Why is 60 not appropriate for it?