white men not wanted in the uk

Justintime said:
To be quite honest, i'm fed up of white men whinging and moaning about everything these days. Many of your forefathers practised way worse discrimination that whats happening these days and did so all over the world without any real consequence (i am not saying anyone here is responsible ok?). White men today are still more wanted than women or ethnics, still hold the most political power and most wealth etc.. you've got it made ffs. Why whinge so bloody much? god sake.
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Nice generalisation.
I love how I've apparently "got it made" too.

But I'm not whining here, I don't really care at all. :)
 
Burnsy2023 said:
Cultural diversity is an asset to this country, it give perspectives that wouldn't be though of just by a native.
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To an extent yes; however I fail to see it as an asset when some people of a certain religious belief want to blow up bombs and impose their own version of religious law ...
 
RDM said:
All other things being equal you would expect the proportion to be similar to the makeup of the populatioin.
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8balled said:
Actually i'd expect it to be similar to the population of the best schools and universities.
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Exactly, statistically "white men" do better in education than "black men"; as such you would expect to have proportionally more white than black men in the top jobs.

Nothing is going to correct that other than the "black men" pulling their fingers out of their backsides; not joining gangs; and actually doing well in education.
 
rypt said:
To an extent yes; however I fail to see it as an asset when some people of a certain religious belief want to blow up bombs and impose their own version of religious law ...
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And of course that is a bit of a moot point considering there are extremists in every religion.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
And of course that is a bit of a moot point considering there are extremists in every religion.
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Well yes, but what religious extremists have recently bombed the UK? (even the IRA tried to NOT injure civilians ... and they were party political in their struggle).
 
8balled said:
Actually i'd expect it to be similar to the population of the best schools and universities.
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pretty much agree, across the whole spectrum I think as a nation we are growing out of any real embedded gender or ethnicity related preference, yes things haven't been equal in the past but the current generation seem to be a different breed to those currently sat in the boardrooms.
The majority of workplaces will never be completely representative of even the local community, there's no reason they should be, different cultures and genders and even people want different things, who's to say that exactly the same proportion of white british people want to work in the computer games industry as the proportion of people of chinese descent that do? It may just so happen that they're the same, but there's nothing to suggest it will be the same. My computer science course was made up of maybe 95% males, there is no one encouraging males and discouraging females from studying computer science, yet that's how the stats fall.
 
rypt said:
Exactly, statistically "white men" do better in education than "black men"; as such you would expect to have proportionally more white than black men in the top jobs.

Nothing is going to correct that other than the "black men" pulling their fingers out of their backsides; not joining gangs; and actually doing well in education.
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bang on the money.
 
Justintime said:
To be quite honest, i'm fed up of white men whinging and moaning about everything these days. Many of your forefathers practised way worse discrimination that whats happening these days and did so all over the world without any real consequence (i am not saying anyone here is responsible ok?). White men today are still more wanted than women or ethnics, still hold the most political power and most wealth etc.. you've got it made ffs. Why whinge so bloody much? god sake.
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Discrimination happened in the past, so thats makes it ok in the present?
 
mattheman said:
Makes you sick best person for the job isnt good anymore now if your white male you can be shafted no matter if you have teh skills for the job.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...e-equality-quotas-signals-Harriet-Harman.html

It will also allow employers to give preference to female or non-white job applicants over equally-qualified white men.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...vely-discriminate-AGAINST-men.html#addComment
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welcome to the 90's where you been all this time?

:D
 
Abraham said:
pretty much agree, across the whole spectrum I think as a nation we are growing out of any real embedded gender or ethnicity related preference, yes things haven't been equal in the past but the current generation seem to be a different breed to those currently sat in the boardrooms.
The majority of workplaces will never be completely representative of even the local community, there's no reason they should be, different cultures and genders and even people want different things, who's to say that exactly the same proportion of white british people want to work in the computer games industry as the proportion of people of chinese descent that do? It may just so happen that they're the same, but there's nothing to suggest it will be the same. My computer science course was made up of maybe 95% males, there is no one encouraging males and discouraging females from studying computer science, yet that's how the stats fall.
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This is the logical thought process and to be honest there is no reason to try and alter it. Certain genders and races prefer certain types of job as they enjoy them more or are more well suited to them.

Of course the you could argue that people have to take certain jobs because they are discriminated against in jobs they'd actually prefer but I think it only occurs in very minute numbers. And if it does, it's in small businesses which would be difficult to change anyway.
 
meghatronic said:
Could you elaborate?
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The statement seems fairly self-evident, if you only get views given by one particular segment of the population then the chances are that they will be less varied than if you polled across all segments of the population.

strudey said:
I disagree. Why don't black men do as well in education?
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There are plenty of reasons mooted, none that are entirely convincing across the board.
 
strudey said:
I disagree. Why don't black men do as well in education?
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I was flicking through The New York Times 2009 Almanac the other day as you do and...

There's a big link to poverty and education. A higher percentage of black males live in poor areas than any other race or gender. They also get the lowest SAT scores and get the lowest average income. (This is in america by the way)

Also an interesting statistic is that 28.3% of african-american males will go to prison at least once in their lifetime!

But what is interesting is that Asian American get the best SAT scores.

I think there is link to low income and success but I also think that culture has a lot to do with it. Culture helps dictate what you hold in high importance and therefore changes your goals in life.
 
Malc said:
I think there is link to low income and success but I also think that culture has a lot to do with it. Culture helps dictate what you hold in high importance and therefore changes your goals in life.
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Agree with this wholeheartedly, think it's one of the biggest factors involved in the apparent social divides. The government do like to be able to fix things though and that means putting the responsibility on individual decisions rather than considering that there could be bigger social reasons for what the figures "show"
 
rypt said:
Exactly, statistically "white men" do better in education than "black men"; as such you would expect to have proportionally more white than black men in the top jobs.

Nothing is going to correct that other than the "black men" pulling their fingers out of their backsides; not joining gangs; and actually doing well in education.
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I think you're rather oversimplifying the situation there. The social situation is complex, in terms of poverty, quality of schools, etc.
 
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