Stephen Fry's Letter to his 16 year-old self.

Jono8 · 1 May 2009 at 13:37

Is well written and i respect Stephen Fry a lot as an intelligent man. Bu it seems a little tedious. He seems to be turning his nose up a little at straight people too :rolleyes:

bledd · 1 May 2009 at 13:38

Nimzicki said:
That doesn't even make any sense ffs "don't believe in a gay"?! Utter toss and I would've hoped that people on here would have more class than to display such pig ignorance. He is a great man, whether or not you agree with his sexual orientation, take a jump.

what he said

Kraven · 1 May 2009 at 14:07

Noel Gallagher said:
read the bible. God intended marriage to be between a man and woman and that homosexuality is a sin. being homo is an abomination and its caused by demon possessions.

SIMPLES!

Read the bible?, a book written by "people" from thousands of years ago with dated views and ideologies. God didnt write the bible, sorry to disapoint you.

Burnsy2023 · 1 May 2009 at 14:18

Noel Gallagher said:
I dont want to kill them or anything lol i just dont believe in a gay. They can live nothing wrong with that

Noel Gallagher said:
I just don't believe in gays. Nothing wrong with what I believe in

I believe there is something wrong with that. I believe your religion has clouded your ability to be reasonable and understanding, something Jesus apparently promoted.

Dj_Jestar · 1 May 2009 at 14:19

I hope I'm not the first to be surprised that Stephen Fry is gay. Not shocked or anything, I just didn't know.

Sankari · 1 May 2009 at 14:26

Crikey.

Skidder · 1 May 2009 at 14:32

Noel Gallagher said:
I dont want to kill them or anything lol i just dont believe in a gay. They can live nothing wrong with that

Surely this is a wind up as I don't think it is possible to struggle with basic concepts and language this much and still be able to work a keyboard.

What do you mean you don't believe in a gay?

Burnsy2023 · 1 May 2009 at 14:33

Skidder said:
What do you mean you don't believe in a gay?

I think he means it doesn't exist, sort of like pixie fairies and decency in reality TV.

Phog · 1 May 2009 at 14:39

Good stuff. Is quite long-winded though hehe.

Jono8 · 1 May 2009 at 14:49

"don't believe in gay" lol

oh dear.

etom · 1 May 2009 at 14:55

generally find gays to be annoying and not pleasant to talk to. however people like stephen fry change that (not that ive ever spoken to him.. ) and make my predjudices seem unfounded for sure.

Le_Petit_Lapin · 1 May 2009 at 14:56

.....I wonder if he's a giver or a taker....?

Burnsy2023 · 1 May 2009 at 14:58

etom said:
generally find gays to be annoying and not pleasant to talk to.

I find camp people annoying, but that doesn't necessarily map onto their sexuality.

AGD · 1 May 2009 at 15:20

So wait, if gay people have deamons in them does that mean you want to try and exorcise stephen fry???

something daft already!! · 1 May 2009 at 15:23

I say get rid of Friday night with Mr Ross and put Mr Fry there instead. I might watch it then, great man.

MotherMayI · 1 May 2009 at 15:45

Von Smallhausen said:
Stephen Fry is a national treasure.

Writer, speaker, presenter, actor ....... there is no end to his talents.

This is pretty groundbreaking credit from me as I generally have a dislike for the UK celebrity culture.

Same here, I have a lot of time for Stephen Fry. An amazing man.

Because you know how to feel, and knowing how to feel is more important than how you feel. Deadness of soul is the only unpardonable crime, and if there is one thing happiness can do it is mask deadness of soul.

A lot of time.

Skidder · 1 May 2009 at 15:46

Le_Petit_Lapin said:
.....I wonder if he's a giver or a taker....?

he seems like a lovely chap, so I would imagine if he is a giver he would at least give the reach around

Le_Petit_Lapin · 1 May 2009 at 15:53

Skidder said:
he seems like a lovely chap, so I would imagine if he is a giver he would at least give the reach around

I've got a horrid horrid image of Steven Fry and that Ginger chap from Mythbusters going at it in my head now.

Pass the mind bleach.

platypus · 1 May 2009 at 15:53

Burnsy2023 said:
I think he means it doesn't exist, sort of like pixie fairies and decency in reality TV.

You can tell by the pixels.

Nix · 1 May 2009 at 16:04

MotherMayI said:
Same here, I have a lot of time for Stephen Fry. An amazing man.

A lot of time.

Seems very Proustian to me. I'm glad the philosophical sentiment is not lost on some.

Guys, you can pick up Moab Is My Washpot for about £4 in HMV at the moment if you're interested. It honestly is a fantastic read and I really did hear Stephen speaking in my head throughout.

It's odd. The two books that have had be laughing recently have been Stephen's and Catch-22. Both seem to cross on very similar ground in terms of their sentimental conclusions.

Anyway, I've scanned through the book and found the original letter:

To Myself: Not To Be Read Until I Am Twenty-Five

I know what you will think when you read this. You will be embarrassed. You will scoff and sneer. Well I tell you now that everything I feel now, everything I am now is truer and better than anything I shall be. Ever. This is me now, the real me. Every day that I grow away from the me that is writing this now is a betrayal and a defeat. I expect you will screw this up into a ball with sophisticated disgust, or at best with tolerant amusement but deep down you will know, you will know that you are smothering what you really, really were. This is the age when I truly am. From now on my life will be behind me. I tell you now, THIS IS TRUE - truer than anything else I will ever write, feel or know. WHAT I AM NOW IS ME, WHAT I WILL BE IS A LIE.

Read the book and you'll understand the context.