Pug 106 Diesel - Rad failure

UncleBensSauce

UncleBensSauce

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Hi All

Managed to replace my knackered Golf, with a seemingly knackered Pug!

Said pug is a Y Plate 1.5 Diesel Zest 2.

Was on the M6 Saturday, I was dong 70 in the middle lane when the little water light with a thermometer in it - popped on. I didn't hang around and had the car onto the hard shoulder, but the engine cut waaaay before I got close to stopping!


Popped the bonnet, and steam was seamingly coming from a shed load of places, I let the car cool and topped it up with water, which is coming out at a reasonable pace from the bottom of the radiator (near side) - approx 2L in 10-15 mins.


Car no longer starts even with water when cold. Initially I was thinking new radiator (about £200 fittedish?), but even with a leaky radiator I'm thinking the car should start?? Am I totally wrong on this or will the car most likely have another issue stopping it starting (apologies - don't know loads about cars).


Any ideas on what else could be wrong? Oh and I assume that the kind of hole I have in the rad is going to mean its a bit beyond radweld? Can't find any mention of "max leak size" etc
 
Head gasket is borked mate. A cooked diesel is a Dead diesel.
 
Bare in mind if you are a complete Nub then you may be describing the problems & giving me the wrong idea. Could quite easily be a split pipe that has ****ed water everywhere drowning your electrics, fix a 5 quid pipe wait for the Leccy to drive & it may be good as gold for 100k.

Does sound like an over thrashed 106 with a borked head gasket to me though & if that's the case then the fix is expensive & even then it will sound like a bag of nails.
Golden rule with Dervs is Never & I mean Never cook them, Any sign of over heating then Stop Instantly.
 
Does sound like a HGF... when mine popped in the Punto, you'd fire it up and the whole car would shake as it was misfiring, 1&2 were dead, but 3&4 were alive, meaning the whole engine block rocked as it fired, then died :P

£300 fix, but that's a cheapo 1.2 8v engine, not a derv :(
 
I've investigated a bit further.

The car turns over but desn't fire at all, I've checked the oil on the dipstick and it looks fine, I was expecting it to look funny if there was water in it. There was no scum or things of note when I opened the oil filler cap either.

Cant see any leaks apart from a this one at the bottom of the radiator. I'm thinking that maybe the HG hasn't gone but the piston rings instead?


The car was probably being thrashed quite a bit by the previous owner unfortunately, I bet if I hadn't had the rad leak everthing would all be hunky dorey
 
New radiator should be pretty cheap, and fitting it should be pretty straight forward if you know one end of a screwdriver from the other.

Unfortunately the 1.4 and 1.5 TUD engines have a bad rep for head gasket failures. Is the engine turning over faster than normal on the starter? Any white smoke from the exhaust when you spin it over?

If it was really cooked when it lost coolant then rings could be knackered causing loss of compression.
 
The AA recovered the vehicle, and brought me and it the 40 Miles home. I don't have access to a phone rigt now so can't call them. But being as the car was only recovered and not looked at by them (a big flatbed thing turned up - rather than a transit shaped toolbox - the guy didn't examine the car at all).

Does anyone know if they'll come out for this (useful dianosis? or at least worth it at no cost to me) despite the fact the vehicle hasn't moved (and can't) since they put it where it is now? I've got homestart, recovery and breakdown on the little yellow card they give you.
 
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