watercooling my i7 setup

Don
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Hi Guys,

my new rig is boring me now and i want to "sex" it up, spec is

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I love the idea of water cooling, nice shiney hoseclips etc.. but dont have the first clue what I need to provide a complete solution.

please could you point me in the right direction with a list of kit to order?

price wise I dont want to spend much more than £600-£700

thanks as always in advance

dunno if component placing counts for anything, but here is the interior as it is now

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700 quid is a lot to spend on water. 250 would get you a great setup and maybe 300 for absolute top end.

cool, any hints on precise parts? I understand the base componentry but get a little lost in terms of hose lengths, fastners etc....

oh and the quieter the better if thats realistic/possible?
 
cool, any hints on precise parts? I understand the base componentry but get a little lost in terms of hose lengths, fastners etc....

oh and the quieter the better if thats realistic/possible?

Unfortunately I'm a noob too, spent this morning researching my own possible setup. :)

To get you started though, you should know you still have to trade silence for cooling power. The reason being that the radiator still needs air cooling. Zalman do a fanless kit, this is targeted toward silent pc people and not really overclockers so much.

Using a single, large fan on the rad would still be very quiet though.
 
complete kits are not very good,your better off buying all the parts seperately and putting it together yourself;)
 
I just get lost by hose widths, barb's etc..

do i need a seperate pump for the 295? or would one pump cool the CPU, chipset and GPU?
 
yeah totally, thats why i suggested that kit, everything can be bought seperately but its just a pain working everything out. When theres that kit which has everything you need in it.

Different pumps have different flow rates LPU litres per hour. So i guess the higher the better? But obviously the pump will be louder if its pushed.

Probably better to do two loops to get the best cooling if you want to cool all of them.

theres also this kit (basically the same as the other one with chipset and GPU waterblocks aswell) http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-035-SW&groupid=701&catid=193&subcat=1038

hope that helps
 
ok, for the best of the best ( arguabley ) here's a wee shopping list.

Swiftech Apogee GTZ CPU Waterblock
Swiftech Apogee GTZ Core i7 Hold down plate
Feser Xchanger - Double Radiator 240
Noctua NF-P12 Vortex-Control 120mm Quiet Case Fan x 2
Laing DDC 18w Pump
XSPC Laing DDC Top with Reservoir
Feser1 x 2
XSPC 7/16" ID - 5/8" OD Clear/UV Blue tubing x 8ft
6 barbs & 6 hoseclips

total roughly £260 to £280

you could put a loop together for a fair bit less using a different cpu block/pump/rad & fans. you could shave a good £40+ off tbh by not going for the top kit out there.
 
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Yo!

As others have said mate its best to do a custom watercooling loop comprising of good quality individual components which will perhaps be a little more confusing to begin with, but in the long run - pay dividends!

Anyhow I have put together a shopping basket for you specifically for your setup!

Here goes:

Your basket
Product Name Qty Price Line Total
EK GTX 295 SLI Plexi Full Cover VGA Water Block £109.24

XSPC DDC 18w Ultra Pump/Reservoir £71.29

XSPC Delta V3 CPU Waterblock (LGA775/LGA1366) £37.94

XSPC RS360 120mm Radiator - Black £34.49

Feser One UV Reactive Coolant 1 Litre (Red) £8.04

6x TFC Compression Fitting G1/4" Thread 1/2" ID/3/4" OD - High Flow £22.68

5x XSPC 1/2" High Flexibility PVC Tubing - 1m £17.20

120mm x 100mm Velcro Pad £2.29

2x EK 1/2" Hose fitting £4.58

2x XSPC Tubing Clip For 1/2" Hose £1.68

3x Xilence XPF120R Red Wing 120mm Quiet Fan £20.67


Sub Total : £269.08

VAT is being charged at 15% VAT : £41.94

Total : £342.18

Couple of things regarding this basket...I have opted for 1/2" tubing (with an outside diameter of 3/4"). This is just my preference!

Also, compression fittings are where it's at imho. The TFC ones are simply fantastic and you will not have to mess around with pesky barbs and clips which which are hassle and can lead to leaks. The compression fittings screw directly into each block (be it the VGA, CPU or Chipset).

I have NOT included a chipset block. In my opinion, it is not needed although it is entirely up to you! If you do decide to go down this route you will need 2 extra compression fittings and two extra barbs/clips in case the compression fittings dont fit on the chipset block. These things are big! This is also the reason I have included 2 babrs/clips in my basket for you, as EK GPU blocks can sometimes be fiddly over them.

If you have any questions just ask mate! I've only built 3 wced rigs to date but my last one was in your case and I must say its a joy to work in!

Last but not least - if you can grab the XSPC RX360 and not the RS360 although OcUK do not stock it. It's a great radiator with normal spacing (which will fit in the roof of your Cosmos with no modding) and offers superior cooling potential over the RS series.

Drop us a reply if you want me to post up some pictures of my last build in that case if you need an idea of what yours would roughly look like...

Tom
 
Vog why opt for a double rad and not a triple? The Cosmos comes preloaded and ready to take a triple??!!

Vog has some good components there - if you have the budget the Feser Exchanger triple rad would be even better than the XSPC I recommended. Also the fans Vog chose are better than my ones.

T
 
highly informative post!

Tom


thanks v much tom and vog, thats pretty much the sort of reply I was hoping for! must say the koolance stuff is very sexy (in a computer component kinda way!!), am I right in thinging these TFC fittings will screw into the koolance stuff if I chose to go down that route?

also don't know if you answered my question and I just ignored it! But, do I need seperate resevoirs/radiators for say CPU/chipset and GPU?

I only have a 600w zalaman PSU, will I need to uprate it?

thanks so much again for your help :cool:

pictures would also be lush to give me an idea on layout etc.
 
You asked:

1. Am I right in thinging these TFC fittings will screw into the koolance stuff if I chose to go down that route?

2. Also don't know if you answered my question and I just ignored it! But, do I need seperate resevoirs/radiators for say CPU/chipset and GPU?

3. I only have a 600w zalaman PSU, will I need to uprate it?



1. Yes generally speaking 80% of the pc watercooling components on the market today use what is referred to as G1/4" thread (could someone in the 'know' tell me what this refers to??!). The TFC compression fittings are FANTASTIC because they secure tightly into these threads simply by hand instead of barbs. I am unsure about Koolance having never used any of their blocks but XSPC, EK, Alphacool, Petra etc etc all use this type of thread on their stuff.

However, the undisputed 'king of cool' radiator line (namely the Thermochill PA120 series) uses a 3/8 thread. This means that if for example, you were to try and screw a TFC compression fitting into the thread on said radiator it wouldn't work! Although, you can get thread adapters of course! Also, the Thermochills use slightly different fan spacing which makes them a pain to mount (unless you dont mind modding) anyhow I digress...

You would need to check the specs on the Koolance blocks you were interested in but in all likelyhood they, like the rest of the manufacturers use the G1/4" thread ie. Compatible with most fittings/barbs.

2. You should only need one resevoir in your loop. However, as far as radiators go it all depends on what you are cooling. Let's say you were going to cool your GPU and CPU - a triple radiator mounted in the top of your case would be fine. Although I would highly recommend grabbing a high-performance rad such as the previously mentioned TFC Exchanger. If you bought a second GTX295 and wanted to go Quad SLI then I would say you would need to look at getting a second single rad installed in the exhaust 120mm fan slot at the back of your cosmos. You could either then, incorporate this 2nd single radiator into your single loop or split your loop into two (although then you would need another resevoir and pump). Having said this however, a single probably wouldn't cut it with another 295 and then you would have to decide what components got the benefit of the triple over the single...*

So to summarise, no you do not need seperates UNLESS you were planning on adding another HOT component to your loop. The Laing DDC Ultra pump is VERY powerful and should cope fine with a single loop comprising of multiple blocks.

3. If I was you then yes. I do not know how much power drain a pump sups but I seem to remember 30w from an old issue of CustomPC?! Don't quote me on it though! Personally, my concern would be the GTX295. It's essentially 2xGTX260s right?! I'd say 600w is the bare minimum although there is a lot of misinformation going round the net atm. No-one needs 1000W and above unless they are running NASA. For you, I would recommend a 850W or greater just to be on the safe side. The Be Quiet! range of PSUs are very good.

Sorry for the long post but I hope the information I have provided has been of some use to you!

Tom

* As a side note, you should look at the Silverstone TJ07 case. It has room at the bottom for a Thermochill PA120.3 and a normal triple radiator can be roof-mounted at the top of the case with a little modding.
 
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