StarTrek XI - ***Spoilers***

PR. said:
The really bad thing is that after going to an IMAX I can't see me ever wanting to go to the hole that is Bedford Cineworld again. Don't want to pay £50 every time a big film comes out I want to see! :(
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I know the feeling, I practically live in Bedford cineworld as it's my closest but for this film I actually wanted a decent seat, screen and sound system so it had to be Stevenage. Now that Bedford is actually popular (3-4 years ago before the development of the uni, when it was still UGC you could go in and staff would outnumber customers on a weeknight) they are looking at redeveloping it but no idea what's happening now.

As for the film, Scotty's accent was too harsh and there seemed to be a lot of Chekov. Liked the story but shakeycam(tm) seems to be the in thing to make fight/action scenes more than they actually are. I thought they did a good job of stripping back the ship for the enterprise series but on this, the engineering sections really did look like engineering sections and the new bridge, much nicer! Enjoyed it and will probably watch it a few times, just because I can (yay for unlimited card.)
 
i came back to this thread expecting crap reviews and more arguing over the design of the ship. wow im suprised on both counts....or am i?;)


i have to see this film.
 
Just back from watching it as well. I thought it was brilliant. Im a bit of a Trek fan and I can honestly say I really enjoyed it. It was also much funnier than I thought it was going to be :)
 
Just got back from seeing it. i felt overall the film was abit weak on the plot, but a rahter enjoyable film.

i perticualry liked the bits which are thrown in just for the fans. abit sad, but felt like a club of only a select few, when theres a joke that only you and a few others in the cinema laugh at.
I would defently want to go back see it again soon.
 
Enjoyed the film very much as a whole. Parts of it were fantastic, parts very good and 1 or 2 small parts where I think it didn't quite work.

Without spoilers I can't say much more but again I did think the film as a whole was excellent. Even my friend who hates Star Trek enjoyed it!
 
Just back from seeing it now and I thought it was good, not proper Star Trek but a film that's able to stand on it's own.


For those of you who ave not seen it yet I would suggest avoiding everything in the quote box below, massive spoilers.



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First off, this is not Star Trek as you've known it, they really have gone and pressed the big red reset button in a very dramatic fashion yet that in and of itself is not necessarily a bad thing, to paraphrase Scotty, I like it. It's exciting. While the story seems very contrived in parts like for example Kirk just happening to be booted out onto the same planet that Spock is on not 10km down the road from Scotty, it holds together well enough that such matters for the large part can be ignored. In fact the villain, Nero, and his plan to wipe out the Federation one planet at a time is all very silly but that's not really what the film was about, it merely provided a back-drop to the formation of the crew which, I felt, the film dealt with admirably.

The film itself certainly was gripping from the get go. The opening battle between the Kelvin and the Narotu, or whatever is was called, certainly was epic, definitely attention grabbing and a great way to start the film. It meandered a wee bit in the middle, such as the daft creature chase which served no purpose (It actually reminded me of Phantom Menace, there's always a bigger fish, I was waiting for a third creature to appear), but nothing too distracting. Most of it was fun to watch and the film certainly delivered the massive scope that a Star Trek film deserves, not just with impressive visual effects but with random aliens thrown in for good measure, something which the latter Star Trek films seem to have given up (Insurrection, for example, with it's stretchy faced villains :( ).

Of course the standard thing to comment about any sci-fi film is the quality of it's special effects and in this case they really were special but with ILM behind the scenes is that really surprising. The one thing that annoyed me was that stupid lens flare all over the place, once or twice would have been grand but it was in every ******* scene serving only to block the action. Maybe they though it gave the film a more realistic appearance, to me it just looked like bad cameramanship.

The Enterprise itself was stunning and certainly seemed larger than life with the engineering section looking like an engineering section. However, they seemed to forget this very functional look the design department appeared to by trying for when it came to the bridge, everything was ridiculously glossy and blurry, a form over function approach which didn't gel well with the rest of the ship.

There were a few things that bugged me however;

The script writers appeared to not give a toss about the fact that there was a Star Trek before their film came along and blithely set forth to do as much as possible to set their vision of the Star Trek universe apart yet every so often they'd throw in a random quip in an obvious attempt to appease fans. It just felt like they were ticking boxes, ie Chekov mispronouncing Vs, check, Sulu with a sword, check etc.

The music, it was crap. I used to like Michael Giacchino's music back when he was keeping it very minimalistic during the first season of Lost but nothing since has really struck a chord with me (well, okay I liked that bit during the credits of Cloverfield, can't think of the track name). Worse than that though, there was so much potential for the score to have been much more than it was, why didn't they include an updated version of the original theme, in my opinion it would have worked very well with the style of music used throughout the film. Instead the original theme was thrown in at the end in a very jarring, box ticking manner with Spock Prime, as he is now known, doing the final frontier voice over.

Phasers. This perhaps bugged me the most. Phasers fire beams of energy, not pulses. How difficult is it to get right :mad:

Edit: Oh and red matter, could they not have come up with a better name... Oh look, we have this stuff of which a single drop can create quantum singularities and it's red. What will we call it?

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Big shiney red orb of doom?
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Overall this is, in my eyes, a good film despite me seeming to complain more about it than highlight it’s merits and I would recommend anyone, Star Trek fan or not, to go see it.


I just hope that when the new show is made they don’t base it on the Enterprise but instead on a different star ship set in the same period as this new universe could be an interesting one to explore.
 
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I have to admit, I very much enjoyed it.

Little bits and peices in there for Trekkies and as someone said, only stuff that we can laugh at!
 
PR. said:
The really bad thing is that after going to an IMAX I can't see me ever wanting to go to the hole that is Bedford Cineworld again. Don't want to pay £50 every time a big film comes out I want to see! :(
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Go to MK instead, the Cineworld there is far superior in the X-scape. Not IMAX quality but good enough.

Bedford cinema has always been a hole, full of kids, crap sound, and rattling panels. Horrible, and aspects should be bulldozered !
 
Well...that absolutely delivered on all fronts but especially the space scenes. Thoroughly enjoyed that and well worth seeing on the big screen, helped greatly by the lack of chavs and talking throughout it. :)


Edit: I'd go into more depth but it turned into a heinous night of drinking, after which I've been left with just enough mental capacity to keep life support funtional.
 
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I liked it and im no way a Treck fan but i have seen most of the movies (hardy any of the TV shows) I think its aimed at the kids more then anything as it was a bit slapstick in places but the action scenes were brilliand and the FX were AMAZING!.
It would make sence for him to make more but im not sure if he will.
 
Overall i thought it was pretty good, just seemed strange watching other people play the roles.

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I did think the warp effect looked like crap though, over the course of the movies it just got worse and worse, right now its down to the ship just zipping off with no blur or after effects or explosion of any type, just lacks any kind of visual impact. It looks good when you get an exterior view of the ship travelling at warp, the entering warp stage is just turd. The phasers being bolts also looked strange, in tos originally they were little energy bolts that resembled torpedo's more but it just looks wrong in this movie for some reason.


After watching the trailers though when you do see the movie the trailers seem very deceiving, you get a perception of nero like he's some kind of mad romulan commander of a vast battleship and it turns out he's the commander of some pos mining ship. Yeah its 130 years newer tech (possibly less since we dont know when it was commisioned, and inside it looks pretty old) but at the same time the ship (externally) looked like it was built specifically to go back in time and destroy the federation.

The batle sequences didnt make much sense, the kelvin lasted 12 minutes against the romulan ship, then 25 years later the fleet of federation ships (7 of them)seem to be wiped out in a heart beat. 0_o And of course you don't get to see that battle either.














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Gerard said:
Overall i thought it was pretty good, just seemed strange watching other people play the roles.

I did think the warp effect looked like crap though, over the course of the movies it just got worse and worse, right now its down to the ship just zipping off with no blur or after effects or explosion of any type, just lacks any kind of visual impact. It looks good when you get an exterior view of the ship travelling at warp, the entering warp stage is just turd. The phasers being bolts also looked strange, in tos originally they were little energy bolts that resembled toorpedo's more but it just looks wrong in this movie for some reason.
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I didn't mind the lack of flash, I always remember the early TNG episodes where the flash was the size of a planet and looked stupid. The massive boom the ship makes was enough to keep me happy.


After watching the trailers though when you do see the movie the trailers seem very deceiving, you get a perception of nero like he's some kind of mad romulan commander of a vast battleship and it turns out he's the commander of some pos mining ship. Yeah its 130 years newer tech (possibly less since we dont know when it was commisioned, and inside it looks pretty old) but at the same time the ship (externally) looked like it was built specifically to go back in time and destroy the federation.
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In the official comics that lead up to the film Nero takes his small Nerada mining ship to a Romulan military experimental outpost that has survived the destruction of Romulas, there he 'convinces' the military to equip his ship with an experimental weapons system made from retrofitted Borg technology it pretty much encompasses the mining ship so you never really see it

The battle sequences didnt make much sense, the kelvin lasted 12 minutes against the romulan ship, then 25 years later the fleet of federation ships (7 of them)seem to be wiped out in a heart beat. 0_o And of course you don't get to see that battle either.
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It also says in the comic that the Borg technology adapts so it's not unreasonable to assume it had got better at destroying Starfleet ships. Also the Kelvin's appearance was a surprise to Nero, he was expecting the 7 ships not to mention he didn't want to talk to them where he'd paused to greet to the Kelvins captain, giving them a few minutes to patch things back together.
 
I liked it - was a very enjoyable and quite fast paced movie. The scenes with near silence in the soundtrack are quite extraordinary.

There was an obvious line taken straight from Star Trek VI and a reference to the TV series Star Trek: Enterprise (amongst other character dialogue from the TOS movies/series).

Also like the fact that other ship names had been kept (e.g. USS Hood / USS Faragut)...

I've watched nearly everything Simon Pegg has done and so felt that his Scottish accent slipped a couple of times! / seemed a little weak in places. He was funny and shows up quite late in the movie. Karl Urban as McCoy was excellent - at one point he almost sounded/acted like the original McCoy - which was scary and did make me laugh.

When the ships confront in battle - the shots are quite close and short. I did like the shot of the Enterprise emerging from Titan.
 
PR. said:
I didn't mind the lack of flash, I always remember the early TNG episodes where the flash was the size of a planet and looked stupid. The massive boom the ship makes was enough to keep me happy.




In the official comics that lead up to the film Nero takes his small Nerada mining ship to a Romulan military experimental outpost that has survived the destruction of Romulas, there he 'convinces' the military to equip his ship with an experimental weapons system made from retrofitted Borg technology it pretty much encompasses the mining ship so you never really see it



It also says in the comic that the Borg technology adapts so it's not unreasonable to assume it had got better at destroying Starfleet ships. Also the Kelvin's appearance was a surprise to Nero, he was expecting the 7 ships not to mention he didn't want to talk to them where he'd paused to greet to the Kelvins captain, giving them a few minutes to patch things back together.
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Most of thats all well and good if you've read those but if you havn't it leaves you wondering whats going on in some areas. Also if that was "borg tech" it should have taken the kelvin apart in the first few shots.
 
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