Toyota will quit F1, Ferrari may quit F1 . . .

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. . . if Max Mosley gets his way and forces rules to split the F1 series into F1a & F1b - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8044860.stm.

According to the OAP Bernie Ecclestone, "Ferrari don't want to leave F1 and we don't want to lose them.".

According to the Nazi S&M fan Max Mosley, "The sport could survive without Ferrari."

According to pretty much everyone else (including Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso, both of whom probably have ambitions to drive for Ferrari), Formula One without Ferrari wouldn't be Formula One.

Surely it's time for Max Mosley to "spend more time with his family"?


ps - no jokes about Spaghetti eating, garlic breathed surrender monkeys please :D
 
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If Ferrari go then McLaren would lose their sense of purpose.

Ferrari and McLaren are like positive and negative, ying and yang, Neo and Agent Smith. They cannot exist in F1 without each other.
 
I agree with Toyota and Ferrari. This is F1 not club racing.

Mosley interferes too much. He should stick to whips and chains.
 
It is slightly ironic that F1 is meant to be the pinnacle of motorsport but they keep trying to pull it down the ranks

Who expects running an F1 team to be 'affordable'
 
If Ferrari et al leave, what are they chances they can get a rival championship running for next year?
 
Frankly i don't know why everybody thinks F1 wouldn't be F1 without ferrari. Ok I understand they are the only ones who've been in the sport from the start and are still there. Well done them. I also hate the way their team always appears to send out the message that F1 as a whole owes them something.

But they may as well have not turned up to this years championship and the racing is still relatively exciting is it not?

However that said, I don't agree with the budget cap, and a two tier championship will never work.
 
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Frankly i don't know why everybody thinks F1 wouldn't be F1 without ferrari. Ok I understand they are the only ones who've been in the sport from the start and are still there. Well done them.

But they may as well have not turned up to this years championship and the racing is still relatively exciting is it not?
You are forgetting the millions of fans who watch F1 because of Ferrari. They would be very disappointed if Ferrari left.
 
Ferrari put the F in F1 without them it would be crap, even if Ferrari come last just there sheer presence at the Track Honours half of the teams there.
Anybody that thinks otherwise should put me on ignore until they have read some History.
Max Mosley is a ****.
 
I would be amazed in Ferarri actually leave. It is only in the last 10yrs or so that the budgets have gotten out of control anyway, so why shouldn't they be reduced in some way?
 
Ferrari have been persistent competition from day 1, regardless of this season's current standings. You know that they're by no means out of the race, as it were.

It would suck if they left, and toyota too. Eventually we'd just be left with a bunch of Corporate sponsored average teams and none or the true race teams.
 
Interesting note is that the only teams who have actually signed up for F1 next year are Brawn, Williams and Force India, no one else has signed up for next year yet.

So there may only be three teams running if changes are not made to Budget caps etc.
 
I'd have no problem with Ferrari leaving, but I don't think a two-tier F1 is the way to go. I do think there needs to be some sort of budget cap (surely most people would rather see Ferrari go and have more teams racing than have Ferrari and two or three others on the grid?), but it should apply to the whole grid.
 
Ah well, that should please this knobber then. After all, he wanted to see Formula One, the pinnacle of motorsport, go to a standard ******* engine just to make Ferrari quit....:rolleyes:
 
*If we can't have our own way then we're leaving*
Hissy fit, stamp feet, throw toys out of pram

No team is too big for the sport they take part in.
Let them go.
Going on this years performance its not as if we'd really miss them.
 
The only bit about F1 i dislike is that Ferrari get more money than anyone else from the TV rights.
 
I can understand why Ferrari are crying as such the rule changes are silly this year has worked out to be good so far so why not keep the same working formula.
 
It is slightly ironic that F1 is meant to be the pinnacle of motorsport but they keep trying to pull it down the ranks

Who expects running an F1 team to be 'affordable'

I may well be dreaming, but during the good old days of Minardi and Stoddart struggling for cash I can swear that Bernie was fairly vocal that if they couldnt afford to run a team they shouldnt be on the grid? Somthing does need to be done about costs however what right do the FIA have to say that the massive budgets of Ferrari etc are not sustainable? The only people who are in a position to decide that are the teams themselves, if Ferrari/Toyota didnt believe they could afford to spend 150/200mil + a season why do they continue to do so?
 
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