French net piracy bill signed off - Three strikes and your out !!!

Damn, how could those idiots accept such a law ?

I can see many Frenchies emigrating to Belgium(Wallonia) now.


Cutting off someones internet is like cutting them off from life for a year, it's essential for many people to make their money on or to manage their things in. Who is the government to prevent people to connect to each other ?

And how on earth will they be regulating stuff like this? What about pre-pay anonymous gprs, umts and hsdpa ? How do they expect to differ between legal p2p and illegal p2p content. Remember many things use p2p to funtion, not just torrents: Apps like xfire use p2p to deliver updates, voip apps, various games. And there are many legal torrent uses too, for example the relic Company of Heroes updater or WoW or others or various 3rd party or freeware things which can't afford enough server capacity. What about filesharing through newsgroups, rapidshare, etc ? This just seems like a major logistical fiasco to me only costing money to taxpayers and bringing in actually nothing positive to society, only a pain in the arse and a lot of suffering.

But hay - don't download illegal material and you don't get cut off.
All very simple, but then when it comes to simple people just seem to fail.

It's nowhere near simple, how will they determine what's legal and what not. How far can they investigate before it clashes with privacy laws.

Only way to hit the thieving scum

They aren't thieving anything. A thief takes something away. Pirates never ever steal anything, they simply copy data.

Of course there will be those that complain, those that moan.
Of course, internet is an essential part of life. Many people live from conducting busisness over the internet
And what about this :
Thing is though, the Eu has already declared that every person has a fundamental human right tot he internet (or something like that).
So surely if the french do disconnect anyone they can appeal to the Eu and it will get overturned.

If this is true then the French gov has no legal point to stand on.


Stoofa, you seem to have a very short sighted view of the situation and seem to have no idea how complicated and hard something like this would be to achieve and make work, both the logistics and legal side of this will be a complete pain in the arse and a mahooosive waste of tax money ( much bigger than the tax brought in by extra sales of music, games, films, etc...) which means the French government accepted something that will actually bring in no extra money to society thus a law made up by a complete retard. I have every faith in that the system will fail or will be abolished in a while in France, due to being expensive, ineffective ( true pirates will adapt), and nearly impossible to carry out correctly ( as said before, they can't possibly realistically check/monitor what's legal and what's not.).
 
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Is it possible to use encryption while using P2P? I mean something along the lines of SSL so nobody can peek at the data mid transit? Maybe this conflicts with the way P2P works though, I cant remember, anybody have better info?
 
lol good luck to them I see they stopped one person already - I guess all it will do is stop the noobs from using it and let the more tech savvy people continue :p
 
I dont care what anyone thinks, if an "artist", "actor", "writer", "musician" wouldn't let someone enjoy their work for free its not worth having.
 
Great idea - shame that it has been initially rejected in the UK, but there.
Only way to hit the thieving scum - cut off their access to the material.

Of course there will be those that complain, those that moan.
But hay - don't download illegal material and you don't get cut off.
All very simple, but then when it comes to simple people just seem to fail.

You do realize everyone and their grandmother downloads at least something illegal from the internet?

I'd hate to think what you call rapists and killers if you think people that download are scum of the earth.
 
Won't this just force pirates back on to the streets like 20 years ago?

probably my mums place of work which is an nhs hospital for old people and mental health cases has a bloke who sells pirated movies, my brothers place of work has a bloke who sells pirated games and films.


i dont think people would really have much trouble without the internet, you also have to remember even spectrum , c64 etc games were pirated and they were on cassette tapes.

music has always been "pirated" from the radio or other where even donkey years ago when music sales were at there peak.

they arent going to stop people getting anything
 
I dislike those people even more than the freeloaders... there was a guy where I used to work who would weekly take orders for music and movies and each friday bring in copied DVDs and CDs... must have made a ton.

Dunno if it was related to that but I hope so, but one day the police came in and arrested him at work...
 
Do you work for free? I know I don't...

No, but i'm not obsessed by fame or wealth either, two of the qualities that are slowly destroying society.

Feel free to come and watch me work any time you like.

And to qualify my statement, perhaps we would have more worthy entertainment instead of predator 10 and the philosophers stone, i'm a celebrity give me money season 6 and lol i cut a horse in half and then slept in this bed, it's art.
 
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No, but i'm not obsessed by fame or wealth either, two of the qualities that are slowly destroying society.

Feel free to come and watch me work any time you like.

Most software developers I know aren't obsessed by fame or wealth either, they just want to earn a living. Having worked in a job where the output was pretty much all IP I feel it would be hypocritical of me to pirate other people's IP. If I don't think something is worth the price, I don't buy it.
 
People will just move isp and when they are done with that, sign up under other peoples names etc. Wont work. Also, secure bittorrents / news groups which i think can't be snooped on by the isps will just become more popular.

You can't tame the internet. When will they learn?
 
If you are so passionate about what you create and the choice between someone enjoying what you created and them not experiencing it at all, ever. Was the fact if it was free or not, what would you choose? i expect you would choose to be paid, which seperates you from an artist.
 
If you are so passionate about what you create and the choice between someone enjoying what you created and them not experiencing it at all, ever. Was the fact if it was free or not, what would you choose? i expect you would choose to be paid, which seperates you from an artist.

I never said I was an artist, yet even artists need to eat, need someowhere to live. I hope you never have to be in the position where you need to rely on easily pirated IP to make a living.
 
As opposed to easily exploited labor?

People who create things have a choice, create items on request or create items for entertainment and appreciation.
 
even if you got cut off from the internet. You could buy an iphone on contract and get free internet for a year, or get one of the wireless dongles.

It sucks how governments are trying to cut down on illegal file sharing :/ while the internet exists I have no reason to believe people will stop ilegally downloading files.
 
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