BARCELONA Grand Prix 2009 - Race 5/17

JRS said:
Deadline for entries is coming up awfully quick. And unless the FIA and FOTA work something out in that time frame, I can see Toyota buggering off altogether and Ferrari sitting out a year.
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Have Ferrari ever missed a year? I don't want to have to support someone else for a year! Although I have always liked RBR :/
 
Lopéz said:
I used to love pit stops before refuelling. Didn't we have times down to under 4 seconds or something equally insane at one point for the better teams?

Love to see that again.
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I seem to recall McLaren getting it down to something like that.
 
el_dazza said:
Have Ferrari ever missed a year? I don't want to have to support someone else for a year! Although I have always liked RBR :/
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Missed races, certainly. And they pretty much ran 1969 as a total write-off while they restructured (they only entered one car and concentrated on developing an all-new car and engine for the '70 season).
 
JRS said:
Missed races, certainly. And they pretty much ran 1969 as a total write-off while they restructured (they only entered one car and concentrated on developing an all-new car and engine for the '70 season).
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Ah fair enough, I don't really know a whole lot about F1 pre 1980 really. I knew there were a few shoddy races like the '82 (?) San Marino race where only a few cars entered, but Ferrari walked it and I wasn't aware of any others :)
 
Check the Op post out in future ;)
the forum has been on there since
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So obviusley on bbc before that..
 
AcidHell2 said:
Check the Op post out in future ;)
the forum has been on there since
Last edited by AcidHell2; 11th May 2009 at 01:48 PM.
So obviusley on bbc before that..
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Well Ive been waiting for the post race F1 forums to be uploaded to the BBC and this is the first race I have seen them do this and just noticed they have, so still hurrah!

Thats the first time anyone has posted a full coverage post like that before so not like I should have known that..;) (its v handy though, thanks)
 
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arknor said:
oh my god
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8050926.stm

im stunned formula one is turning into some gansta rap wanna be bling.

maybe soon hamilton will put spinners on his wheels and a drainpipe for an exhaust.

maybe some hydraulic suspension so his car can jump up and down like a lo rider :rolleyes:
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He had one for Monaco last year didn't he?

Aren't McLaren sponsored by Steinmetz? I'm pretty sure they did this last year for both drivers, and gave Kimi an encrusted steering wheel a few more years back.
 
TWO TIER SYSTEM TO BE SCRAPPED:

From Autosport.com

Ecclestone: Two-tier will be scrapped

By Matt Beer Sunday, May 17th 2009, 09:42 GMT


Bernie Ecclestone says that although Friday's crunch meeting between the teams and the FIA ended in stalemate over the budget cap, both parties did agree that the controversial two-tier system should not go ahead.

Formula 1's commercial rights holder also believes that the chances of any of the current teams carrying out their threats not to participate in the 2010 world championship are slim.

Under the current 2010 rules, teams can choose to either adhere to a £40 million budget cap and enjoy greater technical freedom, or continue to spend freely but run to more restrictive regulations, which some teams have estimated would leave them up to three seconds per lap slower than the capped teams.

The prospect of two parallel sets of rules was one of the main sticking points between the teams and the governing body, but Ecclestone believes the two-tier system is now highly unlikely to proceed.

"I think the most important thing that upset everybody, they didn't like, was this two-tier technical system, so I think it has been agreed that we shouldn't have that. We should have just one set of regulations," he told the BBC.

"I think everybody is more or less happy with the budget cap. Just how much. They'll go with it higher [than £40 million], maybe it'll be lower. It's a case of just sorting it out.

"Everyone will be under the same regulations."

He added that he had his own misgivings about the two-tier proposal.

"I always thought that was a bit stupid," Ecclestone was quoted as saying by the Daily Mail. "It was important to get rid of it."

If the two-tier proposal was shelved, Ecclestone had no doubt that the teams currently planning to withhold their 2010 entries would return to the fold.

"I am confident all the teams will still be racing next year," he said.
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Hopefully now the Media can stop miss-reporting this whole story and get on with reporting on some fact. I was fed up of reading and hearing "X team will quit F1 if budget cap inplimented", when it was nothing to do with the budget that they wanted to leave, it was the 2 sets of rules. Now, if they can come up with some other way to provide an incentive to cut costs, Im sure all will be fine (im a fan of the balast idea).
 
"European Commission ruling in 2001 that said the FIA must "have no influence over the commercial exploitation of the Formula One Championship." Ecclestone's comments echo this is as he told Sylt that "when we had this problem with the European Commission, they made it very clear that the FIA purely regulate the sport. Even to the extent that the teams and us should be writing the technical and sporting regulations."

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=37912


Stick that in your pipe and smoke it mad max. I dont see why the budget cap cant be for car dev only and not cover wages or anything like that. That way f1 has a level playing field that we all want and the teams wont have to make people redundant because of the budget cap
 
From Pitpass:

Essex consortium to enter F1 with Britannia Racing
15/05/2009


Following the news that British F3 team Litespeed and motorsport legends Lola are both submitting entries for the 2010 Formula One World Championship, Pitpass can confirm that a group of Essex, ahem, businessmen, is on the verge of confirming its intention to enter the pinnacle of motorsport next season.

"Let's just say we've got the madness in our souls," said Arthur Field, one of the businessmen involved in the project, and whose main job in the coming months will be the construction of the team's seven-storey motorhome.

The team, which will be run from a yard in Romford, is to be called Britannia Racing, a reflection of the consortium's core values.

"We want to show Johnny Foreigner that Britain is still the best," foamed Tony Davis, the man in charge of the team's windtunnel testing, for which he is using a 1:75 scale model. "We want to show that in spite of Maggie, in spite of this current shower, Britain can still have a manufacturing industry, that we can still lead the world."

Like Litespeed and Lola, Britannia will take full advantage of the FIA's proposed budget cap, indeed the team's press release is remarkably similar to those issued by the other two outfits yesterday, other than for the fact that it is scrawled on the back of a poster which proclaims that 'The World's Worst Elvis Impersonator" will be appearing at The Marlborough on May 30.

While Paul 'I'll keep to meself' Jacobs has little previous experience of F1, he admits to being enticed into the sport by the same words of wisdom which were to cost a leading team what is widely regarded as the 'holy grail' of sponsorship a couple years back, when the team boss told the potential sponsor, "join my team and you can travel the world with me and meet beautiful women", or words to that affect.

So serious are the guys behind Britannia Racing, they are also giving serious consideration to assisting Donington boss Simon Gillet in his battle to keep Britain on the F1 calendar.

"Like Simon," we are 100 percent committed," said Kerry Street, "well, some of these guys ought to be," he laughs. "Once having raised the appropriate funding for the team, we hope to have enough left over to rebuild Donington and thereby race in front of our home crowd."

That said, the consortium admitted that should Gillett and his partners not be in a position to hold the event at Donington in 2010, they would be happy to underwrite a scheme that would surely put a smile on Bernie Ecclestone's face.

"Bernie is always going on about how he wants races on the streets of the World's most glamorous cities," adds Cliff Willsher, "therefore what could be better than staging a race on the streets of Romford, the ring-road would make an ideal track. Though some Sundays there's a Farmers' Market, which could be problematic." After considering the matter at length, he adds, "like I always say, it's all b******s and they're all b******s".

While the group doesn't wish to talk about drivers at this time, or indeed its engine supplier, Johnny Herbert, who grew up in Collier Row just up the road, is being considered, while Mr Field is thought to have access to a "couple of motors".

While some might dismiss Britannia Racing as the pipedream of a bunch of men lost in the mists of time, others are taking the project far more seriously.

The team insists that funding will not be a problem though more should be known after tomorrow's lottery results are announced, the consortium this week opting for fourteen 'lucky dips' as opposed to its usual seven.

We wish them well.
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Can just imagine it :D
 
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