French net piracy bill signed off - Three strikes and your out !!!

As opposed to easily exploited labor?

I have no idea how that is even relevant to the topic at hand.

People who create things have a choice, create items on request or create items for entertainment and appreciation.

Personally I prefer a certain amount of professional quality in the games I play, the bedroom games designer that can compete with a competent professional team is few and far between.
 
Personally I prefer a certain amount of professional quality in the games I play, the bedroom games designer that can compete with a competent professional team is few and far between.

Some of the best games ever were basically written by a couple of guys in their spare time :D
 
I have no idea how that is even relevant to the topic at hand.

You mean like critiquing my statement using software engineers when i didnt even mention them?

But i'll still stand by what i said regardless, if you get paid to create something and then someone pirates it, you still got paid. boo hoo you didnt get royalties.
 
Some of the best games ever were basically written by a couple of guys in their spare time :D

Hence my very carefully qualified statement with them being "few and far between" rather than non existent. :D Most of my gaming time these days though is spent on professionally designed games though.

You mean like critiquing my statement using software engineers when i didnt even mention them?

It seemed relevant as we were discussing IP that can be downloaded. Software does fall very much into that category. I don't actually understand your comment in the context of the conversation.

But i'll still stand by what i said regardless, if you get paid to create something and then someone pirates it, you still got paid. boo hoo you didnt get royalties.

But if games keep getting copied and less people buy them will you continue to be paid to create them?
 
But if games keep getting copied and less people buy them will you continue to be paid to create them?

Perhaps the quality will be increased instead of them latching onto a previously succesful IP and we wouldn't have to suffer the same garbage in a new package that i've seen since i was a teenager.

Instead of thinking about dollar signs perhaps quality should be more important, yet in this society money comes first.

Seriously, you all hate on the gangsta rap lifestyle and the problems that arise because of it yet all it does is glorify capitalism and consumership.

and yes i did just go wildly off tangent ;)
 
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i'd like to know how they know if someone has downloading illegal material.

RIAA etc methods have been shown to be crap some uni in america faked some IP's onto a torrents tracker and had written warnings sent to the uni with the IP's of laser printers ......

I doubt that's true, the University would not have printers on external IP addresses....
 
Does anyone really care? All this "theft" going on yet companies worldwide are reporting billions in profits, they just want to claw back the last dregs they can get.
 
Saying that France is banning piracy is like saying Switzerland has banned hunting unicorns. Just as usual with France, they are first to fight the enemy they don't have. Pre-requirement of internet piracy is actual internet presence, and let's face it, French internaut is a rare and mythical breed, French webites are about as uncommon as Cuban tourists and French servers serving anything, let alone anything illegal, in general, are almost as impossible to find in the wild as purchasing any server in France actually is.
 
Illegal downloads helped me get where i am now.

I needed PS, Prem, Audition ect to make sure i got the grades i wanted in my study, as there simply wasnt enough time (And the systems in general sucked :x 12 hours to render 15 mins or low res footage) in college to get a top grade without working from home too.

Do they honestly expect us to fork out thousands of £ because the countries education system is ****e? and learning establishments under-funded and over-filled?
 
France, one word for you, encryption.

Good luck as you will need it and get ready to throw thousands of euros at this project with no results.
 
I have no idea how there going to know whats legal and whats not, especially on private trackers, there going to have to randomly ban torrent users pretty much, even if they could some how work out whose downloading what they would have to cache data surely, and whose going to pay for that ?

Stupid

France seems to have a political structure even more ridiculous than ours, on one side they have great free thinking planning regulations "you build it your responsible pretty much" and on the other they bring this impossible to enforce law in, it sounds to me like it will just end up been a massive black hole of public sector money for very little gain.
 
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I doubt that's true, the University would not have printers on external IP addresses....

http://dmca.cs.washington.edu/

# Practically any Internet user can be framed for copyright infringement today.
By profiling copyright enforcement in the popular BitTorrent file sharing system, we were able to generate hundreds of real DMCA takedown notices for computers at the University of Washington that never downloaded nor shared any content whatsoever.

Further, we were able to remotely generate complaints for nonsense devices including several printers and a (non-NAT) wireless access point. Our results demonstrate several simple techniques that a malicious user could use to frame arbitrary network endpoints.
Because of the inconclusive techniques used to identify infringing BitTorrent users, users may receive DMCA complaints even if they have not been explicitly framed by a malicious user and even if they have never used P2P software!

if i remember right they just faked the IP's onto a public tracker to show that the RIAA and MPAA methods of acusing peopleof piracy are very very poor and dont neccasarily mean the person is guilty of anything.
 
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Be honest, what home user has a legitimate use for a 50mb connection.

a home of many family members using the net at same time watching hd streaming vids, you tube, streaming music , on the whole streaming media can easily eat that. 50 mbit its only 6 MB ps , household of 5 streaming all kinds of stuff, sending files etc. you get the picture.



but then there is me with 20 mbit all for myself.



:D
 
Be honest, what home user has a legitimate use for a 50mb connection.

Someone that has paid for it? :confused:

Bit like saying what legitimate use do people have for cars that can do 100+mph and 0-60 in <4s. They get it because they can. Whether it should be banned outright on the grounds it can be used for something illegal (ie speeding) is something that needs to be decieded.
 
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But if they banned production of cars that could exceed the speed limits, they wouldn't be able to fine you and increase government coffers. :p

Not to mention the revenue they would lose from loss of fuel consumption.

Oh and when you get arrested they can sell you to a private company who will lock you up, at a reduced cost of course. Saving even more pennies.
 
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