Hunting doesn't mean using foxes - it could be stalking rabbits and shooting them with an air rifle.
Death knell for hunting ban as police abandon monitoring operations
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Hunting doesn't mean using foxes - it could be stalking rabbits and shooting them with an air rifle.
Sorry, by "Hunting" I was implying "Fox Hunting".
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I'm also pro hunting and I've never been hunting. May I ask what you do to help look after and sustain the environment/wildlife in the countryside? Because I'd bet my life savings it's a hell of a lot less than the majority of farmers in the UK!
I'm not Pro-Hunting as such, but I also am not anti-hunting - truth be told I live in a city well away from country folk. I don't see them coming into my town telling me how to live my life and I'm sure as hell not going to go into the country and tell them how to live theirs.
This country is full of do-gooders who get a bit wound up at the thought of fluffy animals being hurt when in actual fact it has no bearing on their life whatsoever and they go traipsing off to the shires to tell these barbaric country bumpkins how to live their life - often with the threat of violence.
Should learn to mind their own beeswax tbh.
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I'm not Pro-Hunting as such, but I also am not anti-hunting - truth be told I live in a city well away from country folk. I don't see them coming into my town telling me how to live my life and I'm sure as hell not going to go into the country and tell them how to live theirs.
This country is full of do-gooders who get a bit wound up at the thought of fluffy animals being hurt when in actual fact it has no bearing on their life whatsoever and they go traipsing off to the shires to tell these barbaric country bumpkins how to live their life - often with the threat of violence.
Should learn to mind their own beeswax tbh.
Great post and a relief to see!
I'm not Pro-Hunting as such, but I also am not anti-hunting - truth be told I live in a city well away from country folk. I don't see them coming into my town telling me how to live my life and I'm sure as hell not going to go into the country and tell them how to live theirs.
This country is full of do-gooders who get a bit wound up at the thought of fluffy animals being hurt when in actual fact it has no bearing on their life whatsoever and they go traipsing off to the shires to tell these barbaric country bumpkins how to live their life - often with the threat of violence.
Should learn to mind their own beeswax tbh.
HELLO you dont just have foxs in the country side they live in the city to
or did you not know that
HELLO you dont just have foxs in the country side they live in the city too
or did you not know that
HELLO when was the last time you saw the local hunt galloping down the high street.......?
HELLO when was the last time you saw the local hunt galloping down the high street.......?
HELLO HELLO you never mentioned HUNTS you just said about fluffy animals being hurt
and tell these barbaric country bumpkins how to live their life - often with the threat of violence.
They do have foxs in the city but you dont get over dressed retards
Hunting in the city..WHY because the Hunts would become the Hunted.
KARMA for the city fox
they don't tbh.
They do have foxs in the city but you dont get over dressed retards
Hunting in the city..WHY because the Hunts would become the Hunted.
KARMA for the city fox
No. You don't get hunting in the city because it is a countryside tradition - which is where it belongs. Foxs live in the city too? Well duh! We used to have the little sods making a right old racket in the middle of the night when I lived at my father-in-laws, so I know about city-foxs thanks.
If you really care that much about foxs, then I suggest you campaign with your local councils to get rid of wheelie bins and bring back plastic bags - as the introduction of wheelie bins has deprived a lot of foxes of their main source of food, leading to a drop in the urban population. Council policy is probably responsible for more fox deaths than all the hunts in the country....
I leave food out for out local fox its great to see him/her in my garden
I don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thing - what does your local authority have to say on the subject of foxes?
My council on there web site says this.
" Is the Fox a Friend or Foe?
Many people derive pleasure from having foxes in their neighbourhood where they feed on rats, mice and
feral pigeons. Most encounters with other large animals, such as cats, result in the two animals ignoring
each other, or the cat coming off best! They are only a threat to small family pets such as rabbits.
Ensuring they are protected in fox proof housing will prevent harm.
and so on..not bad
" Is the Fox a Friend or Foe?
Many people derive pleasure from having foxes in their neighbourhood where they feed on rats, mice and
feral pigeons. Most encounters with other large animals, such as cats, result in the two animals ignoring
each other, or the cat coming off best! They are only a threat to small family pets such as rabbits.
Ensuring they are protected in fox proof housing will prevent harm.
and so on..not bad
My council on there web site says this.
" Is the Fox a Friend or Foe?
Many people derive pleasure from having foxes in their neighbourhood where they feed on rats, mice and
feral pigeons. Most encounters with other large animals, such as cats, result in the two animals ignoring
each other, or the cat coming off best! They are only a threat to small family pets such as rabbits.
Ensuring they are protected in fox proof housing will prevent harm.
and so on..not bad
Good - so long as you aren't keeping chickens....
Good - so long as you aren't keeping chickens....
Lots of people do, we just know how to build right.
so no foxs get in. Simple really.
hahahahaha! quality thread 
some nice sensible posts recently in this thread, and some new candidates for my ignore list
I once heard an argument for the ban with an explanation of what to do with all of the surplus fox hounds - "They could go and live with people who want to have them as pets."
Where is the 'rolling about on the floor in side-splitting laughter' emoticon when I need it?
Fox hounds are magnificent animals in whom the hunting/pack instinct has bred true, unlike most domestic dogs where it lurks under the surface and is rarely seen, except when the family pet mauls to death a toddler because of a negligent and foolish owner - not the animals fault.
Now that might sound like all hounds are rabid killers, not so. Having said that they hunt very efficiently as individual leaders and as a pack. But they are not domestic animals, even when adolescents, with no experience of hunting, they are considerably more of a handful that the average family pet - they need a lot more exercise and need to be handled accordingly.
I rather suspect that, given the attitude of some to the concept of 'dangerous dogs', pit-bull terriers and the like, hounds would quickly be added to the list of animals the law says it is acceptable to destroy for the safety of the public interest.
I hear very little objection from the anti camp in this (not necessarily on this forum) which just further illustrates the singular view that they can feel all the compassion in the world for the fox (an animal which behaves as its instinct dictates - bred true through survival of the fittest) and at the same time demonstrate such a lack of compassion for another animal which similarly does only as its nature dictates (and though it has been bred as such the result is the same as the process of natural selection - efficient hunters and killers).
Such a disparity of logic is the main reason why I have no sympathy or support for those who are anti hunting, and why (though I don't hunt myself anymore) I believe that those who wish to do so should not suffer the interference of either nativity, nor the insult of corrupted legislation.
I would strongly suggest (however difficult it might be for those of a squeamish disposition) that no opinion regarding hunting of any type should be formed until an individual has had a chance to go and see it for themselves; and I don't mean the one sided 'sabbing' view, but to see first hand the life and community that exists in rural britain.
One informed decision is worth ten based upon reactionary emotion. Something our legislators omitted when devising the ban in the first place. Incidentally, the same 'reactionary thinking' lead to the white man condemning the black as an inferior being. I know my point is somewhat digressinoary, but there is far too much emotional interference in topics like these, mirroring the the failure of the legislative process, which ought to be based upon facts and reason, not hearsay and fatuous emotion.
some nice sensible posts recently in this thread, and some new candidates for my ignore list
I once heard an argument for the ban with an explanation of what to do with all of the surplus fox hounds - "They could go and live with people who want to have them as pets."
Where is the 'rolling about on the floor in side-splitting laughter' emoticon when I need it?
Fox hounds are magnificent animals in whom the hunting/pack instinct has bred true, unlike most domestic dogs where it lurks under the surface and is rarely seen, except when the family pet mauls to death a toddler because of a negligent and foolish owner - not the animals fault.
Now that might sound like all hounds are rabid killers, not so. Having said that they hunt very efficiently as individual leaders and as a pack. But they are not domestic animals, even when adolescents, with no experience of hunting, they are considerably more of a handful that the average family pet - they need a lot more exercise and need to be handled accordingly.
I rather suspect that, given the attitude of some to the concept of 'dangerous dogs', pit-bull terriers and the like, hounds would quickly be added to the list of animals the law says it is acceptable to destroy for the safety of the public interest.
I hear very little objection from the anti camp in this (not necessarily on this forum) which just further illustrates the singular view that they can feel all the compassion in the world for the fox (an animal which behaves as its instinct dictates - bred true through survival of the fittest) and at the same time demonstrate such a lack of compassion for another animal which similarly does only as its nature dictates (and though it has been bred as such the result is the same as the process of natural selection - efficient hunters and killers).
Such a disparity of logic is the main reason why I have no sympathy or support for those who are anti hunting, and why (though I don't hunt myself anymore) I believe that those who wish to do so should not suffer the interference of either nativity, nor the insult of corrupted legislation.
I would strongly suggest (however difficult it might be for those of a squeamish disposition) that no opinion regarding hunting of any type should be formed until an individual has had a chance to go and see it for themselves; and I don't mean the one sided 'sabbing' view, but to see first hand the life and community that exists in rural britain.
One informed decision is worth ten based upon reactionary emotion. Something our legislators omitted when devising the ban in the first place. Incidentally, the same 'reactionary thinking' lead to the white man condemning the black as an inferior being. I know my point is somewhat digressinoary, but there is far too much emotional interference in topics like these, mirroring the the failure of the legislative process, which ought to be based upon facts and reason, not hearsay and fatuous emotion.
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Can't be that simple if farmers who have been breeding for generations still lose birds to foxs. But I'm just being pedantic now.
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Nobody has an issue with the dogs, their instincts, or their natural behaviour.
They do have an issue with the idiots who follow them round on horses and treat it as a "sport".
BTW - I'm pro hunting (rifles) and go hunting myself.