I agree, as i said in the other post i hope nvidia havn't got sidetracked with cuda.
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ATI Radeon 5870 and 5870X2 specs revealed?
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I doubt they will, more than likely they will leave CUDA on the backburner and concentrate more on what makes the money for them, with either levelling or going over the DX11 requirements and blowing everyone away with the major performance leap they will surely be achieving
They've been at that sort of thing for a while - they've got the clout to do it and the market share to get away with it.
I think a lot of the emphasis nvidia put on cuda and physx is down to the long term threat they see from Intel, where intel are preparing larrabee nvidia want to encroach on cpu territory using gpu to replace certian cpu functions.
It really is so interesting right now between intel, nvida and amd.
You are not suggesting that they might be communicating and regulating the market between them through some form of cartel? are you? that would be insane..I mean, why would the only two companies on the market engage in such shadowy practices..there is definitely no benefit to that...is there?
As for Intel coming in and stopping the fun..well I suppose that is definitely going to happen, after all it would be impossible for the ATI/NV cut Intel a share and regulate all-together..no way..Intel would never agree to any underhand practices anyway, afterall it has a spotless record on the issue.
It's all pure competition in business nowadays, strict and ethical.
If they see Intel as such a bad threat, they might decide to rope them in and all regulate together, then the only 3 companies would have a steady flow of money on all price points, as they wont want to see Intel running away and taking both of there market shares if all of a sudden Intel are better than either ATI or Nvidia can offer.
lol at the petulant child remarks...
more to the point nvidia didn't see the point of implementing hundreds of features... that no developers are even interested yet in using and don't provide good enough performance on current hardware to put to good use anyway...
I mean most developers are still struggling to put Direct3D9 to good use let alone 10 or 11.
I also love the way the tesselation unit is the big ATI plus over nVidia - despite the fact that 90% of game developers work the other way around and prefer to crunch their assets down to a target level.
more to the point nvidia didn't see the point of implementing hundreds of features... that no developers are even interested yet in using and don't provide good enough performance on current hardware to put to good use anyway...
I mean most developers are still struggling to put Direct3D9 to good use let alone 10 or 11.
I also love the way the tesselation unit is the big ATI plus over nVidia - despite the fact that 90% of game developers work the other way around and prefer to crunch their assets down to a target level.
Capcom and Ubisoft seemed plenty interested.
Ok its a bit of a sweeping generalisation, but overall thats the way it is generally.
I could say the same for CUDA & physx.
So what's the point in even making such a statement in the first place.
Maybe so but atleast developers do have an interest in hardware physics and CUDA is used extensively outside of gaming specifically in workstation, research/medical and educational areas so its not suprising nVidia concentrates somewhat on that.
My point is proven.
We can all make points to specific cases to backup for each so there is no point making the comment you did in the first place which would be expected from someone who is less knowledgeable.
It comes across as nothing more than an opportunistic cheap shot and you wouldn't want to be seen as some like that as people would take you less seriously when you do have a point to make against ATI that is worthy
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I'm none too bothered if people take me seriously or not. I manage to generally sprinkle some good info in amongst what I say and a lot of what I do know I can't backup anyhow as its based on general experience within the game development industry and/or covered by NDAs. So take it or leave it as you please.
If you were not bothered then there would have been no need for the substantial effort on your part in some of the physx debates that have graced this forum.
Some of your comments against ATI weakens your pro physx stance regardless of the physx merits as it can look like nothing more than backing it because ATI don't have it.
The argument for ATI could make a deal & use it does not add strength because the likelihood is so slim that people know that having to put their money where their mouth is never likely to happen & all to often when that near impossible event happens they change their story.
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Hardware physics is something I'm quite passionate about as a developer, and as I've said many times my goal hasn't been in defending physx but rather pushing for and defending the need for a hardware physx platform, as someone who has worked previously in game development, and on the closed testing team for a couple of developers I've seen some of the cool things they've tried to do in that regard and been unable to due to the lack of support.
As usual you've only seen or taken in one side of what I've said and based your opinion on me, on that. If you search around these forums you'll notice I've been fairly vocal about both the strengths AND weaknesses of both ATI and nVidia, neither do I deny I have a preference towards nvidia.
As usual you've only seen or taken in one side of what I've said and based your opinion on me, on that. If you search around these forums you'll notice I've been fairly vocal about both the strengths AND weaknesses of both ATI and nVidia, neither do I deny I have a preference towards nvidia.
You prove my point once again.
My opinion of you is because of what you post here.
Not everybody is going to be a first time reader of your comments about ATI & see them at face value because they have no prior history of your comments to judge you by.
What im saying is your cheap shots at ATI do not help your passion to promote physx.
If you don't want people to see your comments from a side that you do not intend them to then don't give them any reason to with silly unnecessary comments against ATI.