Extraterrestrial Space Ships to Rescue us out of the Energy Crisis?
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Its all about Zero point energy. http://www.veoh.com/collection/AgriculturalNews/watch/v242375hPj2EX3Y
Well what more do you need to know about him?
There's a very simple test. I could make the very same claims he has made. If I did that, I'd either be laughed out of town or someone would have sent for the men in white. Rightly so - I'd have simply made them up with no evidence whatsoever. What is it that makes his claims valid where mine are not?
PS - I'm familiar with Astronomy and SETI (including having personally met astronauts and one of the people behind SETI@home), I have Physics education, and I have a sciences degree. UFO research is absolutely fine and dandy, but we can all do that. I've seen plenty of UFOs - unfortunately all of them sounded like helicopters and aeroplanes. Doesn't mean they were - I could have heard an ET cloaking device - but Occam's Razor suggests it probably was helicopters and aeroplanes.
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That bugs me a little, "The simplest explanation for a phenomenon is most likely the correct explanation." why is it? Sometimes phenomenon is simple to answer but its actually the wrong answer.
Surely this theory can lead to miss explanation for general phenomenon?
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LOL @ the 20,000 MPH comment. The Hubble Telescope orbits at about 17,000 Mph FFS.
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It's most likely the correct explanation ie the probability that the flashy light traveling across the sky (while currently being a UFO as it's true nature is not apparent from just a flashing light) is high that it's some form of aircraft as opposed to an extra terrestrial vehicle of some sort but it doesn't necessarily mean that it always will be a vehicle from earth.
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Now i would believe that, but have being witness to something i couldn't explain, the light moved across the sky rather fast and was a constant white light, didn't flicker, flash or change colours, just came from the horizon and move across the sky, no noise and then vanish over the horizon.
It was too big for a satelite, no flaming trail for a meteor, no flashing lights to indicate a plane or helecopter, no noise.
So using Occam's Razor how could i still choose a simple answer for something like that?
Newton's 3rd law "every action has an equal and opposite reaction" doesn't really come into rocket ships.
Newton's second: F=ma is how rockets work, but m is not constant as the rocket is constantly shedding mass out of the back in the form of exhaust gases. You need to recast it as a momentum equation: F = d(mv)/dt.
Basically, the force on the rocket is proportional to the rate that mass is being thrown out of the back. It's not to do with an equal and opposite reaction.
Here's a good article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_laws_of_motion
edit: having had another think, I'm actually wrong. You can think of it in terms of an "equal and opposite reaction". The burnt rocket exerts a large force on the burned fuel to propel it out of the back of the rocket, and the gas exerts an equal force forward on the rocket.
Then you can consider this force in terms of the second law F = ma causing an acceleration.
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While a bit of a fob off we're not privy to all the tech currently in development by all the military powers at this time and, while what you describe does not conform to any documented natural phenomenon nor vehicle in general service it is still more probable that it was either of those two than an extra-terrestrial visiting our planet.
Of course you could have been very fortunate to see an alien visitor but the chances are billions to one as the distances between worlds are massive and would take hundreds of years to traverse based on our current understanding of physics. Also, there's the fact that our planet is one among many millions of which I'm sure there are many which are much more interesting though aliens may of course be interested in observing the development of our planet and culture.
I think I put a disclaimer on my post
thanks for the info though, I hadn't realised it would be different.
Of course you could have been very fortunate to see an alien visitor but the chances are billions to one as the distances between worlds are massive and would take hundreds of years to traverse based on our current understanding of physics. Also, there's the fact that our planet is one among many millions of which I'm sure there are many which are much more interesting though aliens may of course be interested in observing the development of our planet and culture.
I think I put a disclaimer on my post
thanks for the info though, I hadn't realised it would be different.
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What about ISS? That's bigger than a satellite, no flaming trail, no flashing lights, no noise. The sun/earth/ISS orientation has to be right for this - otherwise the reflectivity will change or it'll disappear before reaching the horizon.
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As far as i know and from seeing pictures, ISS its like a little pin head which you can only really see with time lapsed photos?
It was too big and too close for ISS.
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No, the ISS is usually ridiculously bright, you'd be hard pressed not to spot it really.
and this is the problem with ufo believers.
They have no idea what is up there and what things look like. the iss is much much bigger than a pin ***** and been seen easily with the naked eye.
too close
so what were you using as perspective to gauge distance.If I get a lucky break even I can see it, and I'm what the PC brigade might call very visually impaired. 
As AcidHell2 correctly says, this is the problem with many UFO/ET believers. It doesn't even occur to them that what they're seeing might just have a perfectly benign explanation. They tend to do the exact opposite - look for the most outlandish explanation possible.
As AcidHell2 correctly says, this is the problem with many UFO/ET believers. It doesn't even occur to them that what they're seeing might just have a perfectly benign explanation. They tend to do the exact opposite - look for the most outlandish explanation possible.