Do i need an electrical certificate?

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Hello,

I just installed an electric shower, the wiring was allready in place (done by an electrician) so i just connected the L/N/E. nothing more.

What are your thoughts?
 
Is it RCD protected?

edit - Yes I'd get a certificate (not really sure on this though still on my first year)
 
Hello,

I just installed an electric shower, the wiring was allready in place (done by an electrician) so i just connected the L/N/E. nothing more.

What are your thoughts?
You'll need to connect it up to the water as well. ;-)
 
Is it RCD protected?

edit - Yes I'd get a certificate (not really sure on this though still on my first year)

Yes everything is as it should be (i have the Part P defined scope B & C but not joined a scheme).

I allways understood it that i could replace like for like and there is no problem. Surly this is the same apart from not removing a shower?

Bit of a grey area to which i cant find the answer to online!
 
I thought you would need a certificate if you were running new wires through a bathroom or kitchen.

If the wires are already there I would think its okay to connect up as long as you do it correctly.

However, I am not a trained sparky :)
 
Normally I wouldn't bother and do it myself, but in bathrooms and kitchens I'm paranoid about everything being right and always have it checked by a sparky.
 
Well considering that it's Bathroom I would, I helped do a Bathroom recently as an apprentice and we did one, not really sure really but I'd have one done.
 
As the circuit was already invplace and you didn nothing but change the shower unit, then its not a notifable job ref, building regs, so no need to involvbe the building inspector and get a completeion certificate

To be completely currect you should have issued a minor works certifcate though, you can photocopy a blank one to fill out from your regs book
 
Yes everything is as it should be (i have the Part P defined scope B & C but not joined a scheme).

I allways understood it that i could replace like for like and there is no problem. Surly this is the same apart from not removing a shower?

Bit of a grey area to which i cant find the answer to online!

it's providing your not moving anything or adapting it, ie, moving shower and wires around the room,

http://niceic.org.uk/en/householder/section.asp?SECTION=12

look at the part p factsheet PDF :) and ring the NICEIC if it doesn't answer your query
 
Its all totally academic and pointless - who in hell is going to know if you changed the shower, or for that matter a plug, socket or spur.....no one, so no you dont need a certificate. If you are competant enough to do it then you dont need to pay for someone to pat you on the back, just get on with it.
 
Its all totally academic and pointless - who in hell is going to know if you changed the shower, or for that matter a plug, socket or spur.....no one, so no you dont need a certificate. If you are competant enough to do it then you dont need to pay for someone to pat you on the back, just get on with it.

Imagine if the shower eletrocuted someone or caused a fire, during the investigation they find a 12 month old shower unit, they would be asking for paperwork i'm sure of it :)
 
Imagine if the shower eletrocuted someone or caused a fire, during the investigation they find a 12 month old shower unit, they would be asking for paperwork i'm sure of it :)

Its his own home, if he kills himself who are they gonna prosecute....no one, if it kills a visitor who is to say he wired it it, no one!

Its absolute tripe, wiring isnt rocket science and unless its a major rewire or somthing then there is no reason why a competant person shouldnt do it themselves.
 
Its his own home, if he kills himself who are they gonna prosecute....no one, if it kills a visitor who is to say he wired it it, no one!

Its absolute tripe, wiring isnt rocket science and unless its a major rewire or somthing then there is no reason why a competant person shouldnt do it themselves.

Would you risk being uninsured for a house fire on something which is likely worth well over 100k for the sake of a £50 certificate? I'm sure they would use it as an excuse if that was the cause.
 
It has no bearing on insurance and there is no proof of any changes. If you change a broken socket in the wall would you get a certificate for it....no, you'd get on and change it unless you were incompetant and needed an electrician in the first place.

Legislation too far, totally pointless in the real world as those who can will, and those who cant should be paying someone else anyway!
 
Would you risk being uninsured for a house fire on something which is likely worth well over 100k for the sake of a £50 certificate? I'm sure they would use it as an excuse if that was the cause.

Do you call in an electrician to change a light bulb, just in case you do it wrong and cause a fire? It's easy to see why electricians make such good money with these attitudes.

If you aren't capable of connecting red/black/green or brown/blue/green wires to the appropriately labelled terminals then I fully agree you have no business holding a screwdriver. If you have have some semblance of practical skill and common sense, then safely connecting a new appliance to existing wiring is hardly a taxing job.
 
Do you call in an electrician to change a light bulb, just in case you do it wrong and cause a fire? It's easy to see why electricians make such good money with these attitudes.

If you aren't capable of connecting red/black/green or brown/blue/green wires to the appropriately labelled terminals then I fully agree you have no business holding a screwdriver. If you have have some semblance of practical skill and common sense, then safely connecting a new appliance to existing wiring is hardly a taxing job.

Changing a bulb is completely differant to installing a shower...
 
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