Piracy costing tens of billions of pounds
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YOOOO HOOOO FIDDLEDY, Being a pirate is alright with me,
do what you want cos a pirate is free... you are a pirate!
do what you want cos a pirate is free... you are a pirate!
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Very few of which would be interested in your product.
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Steam has done the same for me for games.. Since using Steam I've ended up buying far more games simply because its easier to pay a few quid there, download them, know that all the patches etc will work, than download a hacked copy, mess around with cracks and then not be able to patch any bugs out!
My Steam games list is huge now, and I've bought loads of little games for a couple quid that I simply wouldn't have bought if it wasn't for Steam!
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I see you have a new sig.
Also the guy is forgetting the people that cant afford to buy a song. And then the people that dont care.... and the deaf..... infact he really just isnt including ANY variables at all which is quite surprising really....
Piracy ISN'T theft, why do you want it to be theft so hard? As I said, if it's theft I challenge anyone to make a citizens' arrest on anyone known to download copyrighted media.
People who maintain that it's theft ALWAYS without fail ignore the important disticntion between the two.
You can't relate it to stealing a car becase a) it's not theft and b) you're not taking something, you're downloading a copy of something.
You can't download cars and you can't make copies of cars to download from the internet.
You aren't 'STEALING' anything if some one has uploaded it to a website and you're downloading it.
By that logic, if some one comes over to you with pirate DVDs, and gives you some for free, then you're 'STEALING'. When in fact you aren't.
Anyone who maintains that piracy is theft only ever states their own opinion as to why it's theft. They can never back it up with anything in law that states that it is indeed theft, because there isn't anything.
You really obviously want it to be theft, but doesn't matter how you look at it, it doesn't satisfy the criteria to be labled as theft. You're not depriving anyone of their property.
So you might say you're depriving people of their IP? Well no because the people who own the IP don't want to own it exclusively for no one else to have. So again it's not deprevation.
Going into a shop and raiding the shelves, then running off is theft. You know why? because there are security guards, till staff and tills. The purpose of a shop is to pay for the stuff inside.
If this shop had no staff, security or tills how could you pay for anything? Picking stuff up from the shelves would be the only way of getting anything from this shop. So again, how is that theft?
Here's my personal view:
I have pirated stuff before; games, music, software.
However, if I don't like whatever it is I've obtained, it's deleted and never shared with another party.
If I do like it, then I'll go and buy the real thing.
The lack of flexibility with licencing/refunds etc means that with this way of doing things I'm not wasting my own money on a product that doesn't suit me, or I think is a bunch of cack. And no one's losing a sale, as I don't benefit from having the stuff (as it's been deleted).
Of course, if there's a trial version available, or a demo that properly represents the product then I'll take that option.
Note: I've not "pirated" anything for years now. This was just in the past.
I have pirated stuff before; games, music, software.
However, if I don't like whatever it is I've obtained, it's deleted and never shared with another party.
If I do like it, then I'll go and buy the real thing.
The lack of flexibility with licencing/refunds etc means that with this way of doing things I'm not wasting my own money on a product that doesn't suit me, or I think is a bunch of cack. And no one's losing a sale, as I don't benefit from having the stuff (as it's been deleted).
Of course, if there's a trial version available, or a demo that properly represents the product then I'll take that option.
Note: I've not "pirated" anything for years now. This was just in the past.
Piracy occurs for music as there is very rarely a decently priced legal alternative. It's the same reason I still buy CDs over digital downloads; there isn't a decently priced alternative.
I refuse to pay £1 a track for 256kpbs music off iTunes when I could buy the album, and have it in lostless, for about £6-7, cheaper if it isn't brand new...
I've got to admit I'd probably pirate games if I didn't have access to a Steam Press account which has all games for free
I refuse to pay £1 a track for 256kpbs music off iTunes when I could buy the album, and have it in lostless, for about £6-7, cheaper if it isn't brand new...
I've got to admit I'd probably pirate games if I didn't have access to a Steam Press account which has all games for free
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Agreed. I have quite a large steam catalogue. I've got about 50 games on steam alone and a few hundered more games on physical media including PC, PS1,2,3 Wii, DS, PSP games as well as about 60 blurays and about 40 DVDs as well as other various media types.
What's really sad though is that when you actually have to turn to cracks and keygens to get your shop bought games to work properly because of the useless DRM included in games, this DRM only causes problems for the people who have bought the games because those who haven't bought them have copies with DRM removed.
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Will Smith sold :
14 million Big Willie Style (with 16 tracks + 1 bonus)
4 million Willennium (15 tracks)
Given a 10p per son structure (bonus song free) the Big Willie album would have cost £1.60 and so would have made £22.4 million
Willennium would have cost £1.50 and would have made £6 million
Born to Reign is probably the more standard sales pattern (only hitting 237k in USA and I thin 0.5mil world wide).
It has 14 songs; so that is £1.40 for the whole album - meaning that it is still 700k made.
And I'm not sure Will smith is the "largest" name in the music business.
Now imagine if the Big Willie Style album price is £10 - that £140mil made on just one album ...
There are heaps of other means to enjoy free new music from the internet at any time you want. Kind of rules out why you download illegal copies now doesn't it.
In the end it all burns down to this. You want free stuff and you want it now. TW-Fox pointed out with movies people generally watch it once yet people want to download illegal copies to burn to a disc and store for ever.
And if Blockbuster is such an effort to drive too (What a lazy society we live in today). There are websites that provide a similar service.
Plain lazyness and wanting everything for nothing is what it comes down too.
Got to laugh at the people trying to justify this.
There is no-where to park at BB here; plus you have to go through a 20mph zone to get to it.
Oh I'm very sorry to hear that. It's probably best you download an illegal copy from a file shareing site rather than deal with the 20mph zone or look for somewhere close by to park.
I would suggest using your legs and walking but thats probably a mile's walk which would be worse than running a marathon.
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Must be great to be all knowing ( could I have next weeks lottery numbers as well please?)
I stumbled across a music video on the vh1 website - Australian band called the Veronicas. The acoustic live set they did was brilliant
20 minutes later I had downloaded both their albums via newsgroups
After listening to them I thought , damn thats good lets buy it.
I had to import one album from America and the other from Australia
Both were reasonably priced even tho they be imports
1.8 miles to the closest BB; so about a 30-40min walk .. all for a film I can get online in better quality.
