if you think the price is unfair, don't buy the product. this does not excuse taking it illegally, that's just counter productive...
Piracy costing tens of billions of pounds
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if you think the price is unfair, don't buy the product. this does not excuse taking it illegally, that's just counter productive...
*from the other side of the till*
I'm a music artist, I haven't made any music since I was 12. Why would I?
Iff I don't get paid for my trade, why would I make any music?
If everyone pirated, then no artist, musician, developer or producer would create anything, as it's their livelyhood.
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that doesnt make sense, artists dont make music because they think they can make some money out of it. A lot of artists do it because its what they enjoy doing. Never when I make music do I think "Im going to make millions!" I just do it because I like the sound of what I made. It only becomes of value when other people show interest and are prepared to pay for it.
Does this sound like a crowd of people willing to pay for it?
not quite
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****ing somalians spoiling it for the rest of us!
I don't download illegal copies of anythingI just don't get on my high horse and ignore any reasoning as to why people do because I have common sense.
Not everybody wishes to drive to Blockbuster to rent a movie. That is not a bad thing and nor does it make them lazy. The internet has made it possible to access media from the comfort of your armchair (or desk) and it is in no way a terribly lazy thing to wish to take advantage of this. Just because the record/film companies are living in the stone age does not mean their customers are and that is why people are turning to piracy.
When you can pay £15 for a game on Steam and be playing it within a few minutes with playtime reaching into hundreds of hours in some cases, driving to the shop and paying £15 to watch a DVD once for two hours is just not appropriate pricing.
You can laugh at them all they want but you can know full well they will be laughing at you too. I doubt they will lose any sleep over it.
Don't know why you quoted me and took that as a personal attack as to what you do with your life. Frankly I don't care what you think Pal. My post was more of a generalisation on people and Piracy.
Whilst I mentioned BB I did say there are other means. The internet has sites where you can rent and download, but why bother repeating myself. My post wasn't directed to just you.
Yes. Normally around 20% from the label takeback after break even on the advance.
I see you missed out the part where I saaid it's their livelyhood.
Sure, most artists make what they make as they enjoy doing so.. but if they don't get reperations for the time spent, they'll have to get a non-arty job to earn a living, leaving no time to create.
Either way, doing it for business or pleasure, an artist can't make art if they're not getting paid for it.
Bullcrap.
I've been in the Train Sim community for well over 12 years now (Yes, I've built and released stuff, for free- http://www.bvecornwall.co.uk ). People build stuff for free, simply because they want to. Some of this stuff goes on to get commercialised- Fine. Inevitably, some of this gets pirated but you don't hear people complaining nearly as much, as the TS community doesn't make a living out of it. You need to remember that people don't have to buy anything that gets created as it's optional, and TBQH many people create what they do simply because they enjoy it
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High quality, relatively cheap, DRM free downloads are what's needed. That's what was needed 10 years ago but they didn't listen.
Why would I pay £1 for a 128kbps track that can only be transferred to a certain number of machines when I can get FLAC quality for free?
Or for that matter, stream the same quality through Spotify, Grooveshark or Pandora for free and legally.
I don't know how many times you have to be told this for it to sink in. Piracy is not theft.
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Bullcrap.
I've been in the Train Sim community for well over 12 years now (Yes, I've built and released stuff, for free- http://www.bvecornwall.co.uk ). People build stuff for free, simply because they want to. Some of this stuff goes on to get commercialised- Fine. Inevitably, some of this gets pirated but you don't hear people complaining nearly as much, as the TS community doesn't make a living out of it. You need to remember that people don't have to buy anything that gets created as it's optional, and TBQH many people create what they do simply because they enjoy it
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How can you possibly, possibly compare people in the Train Sim community [which I wouldn't admit to being in anyway] to an artist trying to record an album, for which he needs studio time/promotion/mixing/mastering/artwork all paid for plus manufacture and distribution for the physical CDs [if they're wanting to do physical CDs at all] to people who sit behind computers designing trains for fun [for which, I imagine, there are hardly any costs involved save for electricity bills].
This is possibly the most idiotic comment I've heard - even on Overclockers. Please. Just take your irrelevant [and slightly sad] experience elsewhere.
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I never said I was
I'm an Application Support Analyst.. the most anyone could pirate me is by copying a few sql scripts
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i doubt many pirates would actually go out and buy what they'd have otherwise downloaded, so technically it's next to nothing compared to their estimation
Most modern laptops and a cheap modern studio soundcard is more than up to the job for mixing an album on and with a bit of creativity can get close to the production quality of an album mixed in a top end studio.
The whole notion that it costs huge amounts of money to make an album, like lots of things with the music industry, is a reminace from decades gone by.
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They don't. Most of the stuff they download is for the sake of it just because its free. They wont be going into the shop weekly and buying £100's worth of CD and films a week.
Er. It's called motor vehcle theft... a closer analogy of someone downloading something would be making a replica car themselves. They've used a companies ideas and designs without the company getting any money.
What do you think of borrowing a game, film or CD from a friend? You're getting it for free, so surely that's theft too?