pretty much.
before i had decent internet i didn't buy dvd's or films, just didn't watch them.
I only buy stuff i really like, like red dwarf and futurama
Piracy costing tens of billions of pounds
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pretty much.
before i had decent internet i didn't buy dvd's or films, just didn't watch them.
I only buy stuff i really like, like red dwarf and futurama
It's not theft if you have the owners consent. If you took it without asking them thats theft but then that wouldnt be borrowing it.
you need the copyright holders consent not the license holders.
stoofa said:
WTF ?
Then what is it called ?
And why do insurance company's issue insurance against ''fire and theft''
You have the consent though with downloading, someone willingly uploads it and shares it with the world.
As Tefal says...
No, but you're depriving the company who made it from potential revenue. I have the owners permission when I donwload something... the original uploader must have bought it
So if I want to borrow my gf's copy of the sims I got to check with EA? Oh man
yep you're a dirty pirate if you don't have their permission.
I'm very well aware that an entire album can be recorded, mixed and mastered on a laptop. But paying an engineer to do that professionally when most bands don't have a clue how? You've got a few thousand pounds' worth of work right there.
Stuff them I'm not paying ridiculous prices.
Also, it seems pointless buying DVDs/Blu-Rays now because there will always be a new format. What we need is a service where you pay for online access to extremely high quality 1080p movies, but you get them for life. So when the 2080p version comes out you get that free as well.
Albums should be no more than a fiver.
Also, it seems pointless buying DVDs/Blu-Rays now because there will always be a new format. What we need is a service where you pay for online access to extremely high quality 1080p movies, but you get them for life. So when the 2080p version comes out you get that free as well.
Albums should be no more than a fiver.
a good producer will cost a fortune but could potentially make an artist. and you won't get close to a half decent studio recording using a laptop in your bedroom let alone a studio recording on top of the range kit operated by professionals at the top of there game.
Sadly the modern consumer isn't interested in audio quality, just price and we have gotten so used to appaling quality rips and terrible mastering that research now show people actually prefer the shoddy everything louder than everything else mixes and low bit rates to properly made stuff.
That's all very well but... I don't have a car, and I have no idea where BB is, I also don't have a (standalone) DVD player. So DVD's are pretty useless for me.
Instead I occasionally download films for free, the main reason I do that is for convinience, so I don't have to go out, find the film in a shop (or wait days and make sure I am in for it to be delivered, online), which can be harder than you think with some, then copy and reencode it onto my computer.
Or I can load up my web browser and find the file online and download it to my pc in a matter of minutes/hours, making random "I feel like watching" moments easy.
Now if there was a service out there that provided films on demand through a website, that I could buy a (good quality) digital copy of either SD or HD qulity for a few pounds, that had no DRM and a good back copy (say almost as good as on the net now) then I would much rather use that service, however there aren't (although there are a few starting to reach this stage).
There used to be a small automated hire place within walking distance of me, with a good selection of films, so we used to just wonder up there and pay a pound to rent a dvd for a few hours, that was almost perfect, and the DVD's generally worked (the ssame cant be said for the BB post rental we have at home)...
The Blockbuster post rental thing is good in some ways, but it's also a major pain as, generally it's impossible to get the good/new films, and although you put a list of what you want they will arrive in a random order, however for £10 a month it's not that bad. Just why oh why can they not do a digital version???
Considering most modern music is compressed and limited to such a point it has a dynamic range of less than 4db there's very little need for professional engineers these days.
Also engineering isn't that hard to pick up. I've heard many bedroom mixes of songs done by novices that sound they've been recorded in £1k an hour studio. Mixing and engineering use to be about what equipment you had. In the digital age of emulated SSL EQs and Compressors UltraMaximisers anyone can produce a decnt mix if they can be bothered to read the online manual.
Just why oh why can they not do a digital version???
it wouldn't be that hard to make a online version, piracy has shown how easy an effective DRM free videos/music can be distributed very cheaply.
only problem is the copyright holder would never let them do it.
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i wouldn't pay more than a fiver for Albums (and anything considered pop should either a. be outlawed or B. cost what it's worth (50p))
and more than about the same for DVDs, blu rays about tenner
anything more is just stupid, it's not worth the money they ask and that's why people pirate.
perhaps they should reconsider their pricing structure instead of pointing the finger
and more than about the same for DVDs, blu rays about tenner
anything more is just stupid, it's not worth the money they ask and that's why people pirate.
perhaps they should reconsider their pricing structure instead of pointing the finger
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DRM, online game registrations etc etc are all a by product of piracy itself so please don't use it to justify what you are doing, pirates are the reason these systems are in place. Simple fact is if you enjoy a film/album/game then you should pay for it, not only because its illegal to otherwise but more importantly to show your support and encourage the creation of further products.
But the gap has seriously narrowed since the days of bedroom bands having to use 4 tracks. Pre DAWs there use to be a big difference between bedroom produced music and professionaly produced music. Now the difference isn't as big hence why a lot of studios are going out of business.
a1ex2001 said:
That's down to bands and labels cutting corners. It's far cheaper to have the band mix the song or get a novice engineer to over compress and limit the mix and making it so loud to mask any shortcomings than it is to get a very skilled yet expensive engineer and studio.
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That's a **** approach it's been shown over and over DRM fails within the first week( and often before it;s even released), so it only servers to annoy the people who actually bought the game (pirates don;t have to deal with it) and to push up the cost of the product.
Also see what happened with spore, the dRM drove masses of people to pirate it until EA removed the worst parts.
then of course there's starforce...
When it comes to DRM the proof that it doesn't work is evident in the recent behaviour of the developers themselves. Supreme commander, Spore, Bioshock, the list goes on, all had DRM upon launch that has either been adjusted or outright removed in order to appease the consumer. New games like Demigod and even The Sims 3 do not have any form of DRM, you know when EA are getting rid of it that it must be useless.
DRM never worked, games were always cracked on or before the release day.
DRM never worked, games were always cracked on or before the release day.