Are your local doctors this bad?

kibblerok said:
NHS is useless and the service the public gets for the money pumped into it is a scandal.

Dare to kick up a fuss or criticise you are told "nurses/doctors are so overworked" etc :o the NHS seems to do well at hiding poor service behind this mantra.
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I suggest you to spend a day with some of the front line staff. Unless you happen to possess first hand experience of the contrary, you are not in a good position to state that isnt true :o

For the money pumped into it, it is doing rather "well", of course that depends on what you are looking at. For most people in this forum, it isnt doing "well", since we're all mostly young and healthy, with little chronic or life threatening conditions. What we dont realise that if you happen to need the NHS quickly, read RTA/trauma etc, it does very well. If you need it for minor "things" then it may not be as "good".
 
kibblerok said:
NHS is useless and the service the public gets for the money pumped into it is a scandal.

Dare to kick up a fuss or criticise you are told "nurses/doctors are so overworked" etc :o the NHS seems to do well at hiding poor service behind this mantra.
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You haven't got a scoobie have you?
 
Kami said:
Change your GP practice if you think the one you have is poor - they are paid to carry out checks on patients and frankly have to retain patients.

They are more or less run as private businesses though, there's very few similarities between them.

My new doctors after moving house will always see patients within 48 hours and WONT book appointments more than 1 week in advance - they prefer you call them on the day you need one or the day prior to you being available to go.

My last doctor would make me wait at least 1 week, as they were too busy dealing with mothers, kids and pensioners to see men.
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it's the same with my doctor
 
DavieCramb01 said:
Yup, Mines isnt so much as an urgent case but the same.

I have had pains in my chest for the best part of 2 years and they keep saying they cant find anything, thats 2 different doectors and a rake of tests, I also get pains in my legs and can push down on my shins nad it leaves a heuge dent for ages, like water retention but they say its nothing to worry about.
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Regarding the pains in your chest, you might want to do a search for GERD, basically stomach juices coming up and going into your lungs and irritating them. My missus suffers from it at the moment, doesn't bother her on a day to day basis but if she tries to laugh a lot she ends up doubled up wheezing with chest pains. She saw the doc the other day and they rushed her straight into hospital thinking it was a blood clot :eek:! All was fine though and they think it's GERD now so she takes tables to help control the stomach acid.

I'm not offering medical or anything of the sort, it's just a thought if they can't find anything wrong with your lungs, t'was the same brief as my partner.
 
seek said:
Yes, but do we pay our taxes for private service?
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No your taxes pay for NHS treatment and its inherent limitations. The amount the UK puts in to healthcare is significantly less per capita than other european countries, there is no limitless pot of funds to pay for the latest fad drugs or to scan every tom, dick and harry that rock upto their GPs expecting some instant cure.

If you want things doing on demand then you have to be prepared to foot the cost. You might get things done quicker and in greater comfort privately but there is no evidence it is done any safer. Should anything go wrong the private hospital will just sling you in an ambulance and drop you off at your local NHS hospital anyway.
 
Mine are absolutely find.

Ring up that day and they'll fit you in that afternoon if it's urgent, the next day or two if not, or any time in the next month if you just want to organise yourself early.

Never had a cancelled appointment, long wait or any problems whatsoever.

Morecambe bay trust ***.
Edit: For the win is barred?
 
Minstadave said:
No your taxes pay for NHS treatment and its inherent limitations. The amount the UK puts in to healthcare is significantly less per capita than other european countries, there is no limitless pot of funds to pay for the latest fad drugs or to scan every tom, dick and harry that rock upto their GPs expecting some instant cure.
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Japan spend even less of their gpd on healthcare yet they don't have these problems, the problem is management not funding (which has more than doubled in the past decade). On the nhs I actually have to pay more for pescriptions than they cost retail!
 
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Energize said:
Japan even less of their gpd on healthcare yet they don't have these problems, the problem is management not funding (which has more than doubled in the past decade). On the nhs I actually have to pay more for pescriptions than they cost retail!
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Yes but you're subsidising people who would be paying thousands for their herceptin/anti-dementia drugs, its socialism.
 
Well it's not really because I'm a student, one of the people supposedly in need, not one of the rich people. It's supposed to be the other way around.
 
Minstadave said:
If you want things doing on demand then you have to be prepared to foot the cost.
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Did I ever say I wasn't? Your argument is that we have two options - NHS with it's limitations, or pay to go private. But why should we pay for NHS and go private as well? I don't mind paying, but I don't see why we should br forced to pay for NHS and ALSO have to pay for private health care. :confused:
 
heeeed said:
I'm afraid to say that as someone from the other side of the desk so to speak that that all sounds like the normal time frames to expect. I would love to be able to have xrays and USS the same day, but it just doesnt exist as a resource.
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Of course. The NHS has finite resources, like everything. The difference is that the NHS is rationed by queueing rather than by price and a jolly good thing too. I much prefer it this way.
 
seek said:
Did I ever say I wasn't? Your argument is that we have two options - NHS with it's limitations, or pay to go private. But why should we pay for NHS and go private as well? I don't mind paying, but I don't see why we should br forced to pay for NHS and ALSO have to pay for private health care. :confused:
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Because there is no private healthcare system without the NHS. All emergency medicine is NHS based, and there are very few private intensive care units, so any major complications of private treatment are dealt with by the NHS at the taxpayers cost.
 
Minstadave said:
Because there is no private healthcare system without the NHS. All emergency medicine is NHS based, and there are very few private intensive care units, so any major complications of private treatment are dealt with by the NHS at the taxpayers cost.
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I understand that, but why be forced to pay for expensive private care rather than simply 'footing the bill' on NHS?
 
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