The best headphones for my needs & system? -Comprehensive post.

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For my birthday I decided to treat myself and replace my old and faithful headphones (medusa 5.1) and soundcard (Audigy SE) for a few reasons, mainly because the left front speaker has gone on my medusa's (after 2 years) and the Audigy SE is older than my mother. So, after deciding that I wanted to move up a notch on the sound front I started eyeing up the Asus Xonas D2X and the Razer Megalodon 7.1 headset (more on these later) and then proceeded to order both.

The Xonar came a few weeks ago and it's beautiful, even through the medusa's, the sound quality was hugely improved. The megalodons however, are out of stock at OC. When (for the 3rd time) they told me they would "be only 7 - 14 days" - 30 days after initial payment was made - I gave up and started searching for replacements to purchase. Enter this forum!

Reading through here I have realised that not only are the megalodons USB (which even I know sucks), but that stereo can provide the surround sound that I so enjoy so long as you have an appropriate sound card. So I promptly cancelled the Megalodons and started searching for some stereo's.

What I'm looking for are a set of headphones that can provide the surround sound that I am used to with my medusa's 5.1. I don't care much for music or movie sound quality, as the medusa's (which you more versed memebers say are crap) served those two purposes flawlessly for me, all I need is gaming performance. Now, my medusa's were a massive improvement over my previous headphones - sennheiser PC155's - and since then I have always swore by surround sound headsets. However reading through these forums has sort of converted me, and I am now looking for a stereo set to compliment my Xonar.

After reading through the brilliant post by Dreadhead on May 28th, and subsequently the link: http://base.teamxbox.com/43202/ I came to a similar bottleneck. Do I get the DT880's, AD700's, the Senn 555's or Senn 595's... or simply something else :confused:

Surprisingly the Sennheiser 555's and 595's rated a poor 3 stars in his overview, but have many faithful followers on this forum. Compared to the AD700's 4 star and the DT880 5 star the Senn's seem to pale in comparison. With the 555's pricetag you can forgive it, but the 595's price is comprable to the AD700's, and with the DT880 up £80 you can also understand why that's ahead of the game.

Summery question (sorry for the long post): Of the Senn 555's, Senn 595's, AD700's & DT880's which is the most suiting for surround sound gaming with an Asus Xonar D2X soundcard, or is there someone out there with an Ace up their sleeve.

Looking forward to the responses.
 
Let me be the first to wish you a happy birthday, as for headphones i would go for Logitech G35 7.1 Surround Sound Headset.
 
As for the headphones, I'd attempt to find a dealer close to wear you live and go have a listen/feel yourself. Some might sound great but not fit comfortably on your head, others the other way round. Spending that much money (DT880 range) you NEED to try them first if possible.

Even though the 595's and 555's got 3 stars, that's 3 stars more than a similar priced gaming headset might have got... maybe.
 
Let me be the first to wish you a happy birthday, as for headphones i would go for Logitech G35 7.1 Surround Sound Headset.

Are you sure? i mean its USB and i don't think you will get a better sound than the headphones that plug in to your soundcard directly. Basically USB means software right?
 
What is your budget for the headphone? I would say get HD555 and save soome cash cos HD595 sounds so similar to HD555.

I'm using HD555 paired with D2X for gaming, movies and music and sounds fantastic. Really clear detail, good amount of bass and also nice high and mid also vocal and i can even hear what they're saying clearly :)
 
Are you sure? i mean its USB and i don't think you will get a better sound than the headphones that plug in to your soundcard directly. Basically USB means software right?

Yes is does need software,
* 7.1 surround sound powered by Dolby® technology: Delivers a detailed soundfield—hear your enemies before they see you.
* Ear-enclosing design: Shields you from distractions and immerses you in the game.
* 40 mm laser-tuned speaker drivers with neodymium magnets: High performance components deliver crisp highs, lows, and everything in between.
* Unidirectional, noise-canceling microphone: Focuses on your voice and reduces background noise.
* Full-speed, all-digital USB connection: Delivers clean, clear audio and lets you keep your desk speakers plugged into your sound card.
 
Thanks for your responses so far, and I'll address a few things:

*USB headsets are widely regarded as woeful in terms of quality when compared to other normal audio jacks when plugged into a decent sound card, so I disregarded them early on. Furthermore, buying a USB headset would mean I wouldn't use my Xonar D2X which in turn means a wasted £100+, not something I care to do.

*5.1 or 7.1 "surround sound" headphones are not the best way to achieve surround sound. You only have 2 ear drums, so why have 7 speakers? The human brain interprets the location of noise by the small time differences in the arrival of noise in each ear and as such, 2 speakers with a good soundcard (which in turn has good software - EAX, CMSS3D or Dolby Headphones) will provide the best surround sound experience.
*Willy asked what my budget was, well I would have assumed it was pretty obvious given the 4 headphones I mentioned, and using those as reference it's between £70 £200, saving cash is not my objective, getting the best headphones for my cash spectrum is.
 
Not to be an arse, but the Logitech uses the same surround sound technology as the Xonar, the G35 itself only has 2 drivers. However, I'm really intrigued with suggestions as I'm looking at getting a D2x and HD595's funnily enough for me bday too. But will watch this thread closely for suggestions. :D
 
*Willy asked what my budget was, well I would have assumed it was pretty obvious given the 4 headphones I mentioned, and using those as reference it's between £70 £200, saving cash is not my objective, getting the best headphones for my cash spectrum is.
Calm down dude, no need to jump down his throat particularly as you're the one asking for advice ;). It was a fair enough question.
 
Being an arse and pointing out stuff like that means people learn - including myselfl, so thanks for that! :)

So are you saying the G35 only actually has 2 speakers, left and right, but uses Dolby (presumably headphone) technology to create the surround sound effect?
 
Being an arse and pointing out stuff like that means people learn - including myselfl, so thanks for that! :)

So are you saying the G35 only actually has 2 speakers, left and right, but uses Dolby (presumably headphone) technology to create the surround sound effect?
Yes that's correct. Some of the asus soundcards can do the same.
edit: yours definately can.
 
Yes is does need software,
* 7.1 surround sound powered by Dolby® technology: Delivers a detailed soundfield—hear your enemies before they see you.
* Ear-enclosing design: Shields you from distractions and immerses you in the game.
* 40 mm laser-tuned speaker drivers with neodymium magnets: High performance components deliver crisp highs, lows, and everything in between.
* Unidirectional, noise-canceling microphone: Focuses on your voice and reduces background noise.
* Full-speed, all-digital USB connection: Delivers clean, clear audio and lets you keep your desk speakers plugged into your sound card.

Copy and pasting a spec sheet which just states a load of tarted up crap does not show it to be a good headset. But the word 'LASER' in there so it must be good ;)

Ignore the headset idea and stick with headphones partnered with a xonar with dolby headphone, rather than some gimmickly usb headset with a fancy speclist :p

The Senns are a great workhorse and work well for everything, and sound very very natural indeed. They might not be the best gaming headphones, but then again I haven't tried gaming with ATs, Beyers etc so can't comment on how they all compare. I have some headvily modified DT7700 'Darth Beyers', but we were playing jungle music through them loudly admiring the sub type bass, so as you can see my experience is limited with them :D:D:D

Try some out if you can, but be warned if demoing new headphones that their sound will change over the break in period so you won't be hearing them at the best when straight out of the box.
 
Well, firstly. Do not get anything USB. You have a great soundcard in the Xonar. The two are mutually exclusive.

Secondly - if your medusas will switch to stereo mode, do so. Have a mess around with the Dolby Headphone settings. (In Xonar control centre set audio chanels to 6 or 8, analog out to headphones and try all 3 dolby headphone settings). You should get an impression of the surround effect. I think the Medusas actually work better as a stereo set with Dolby Headphone than in the native 5.1 mode. They might sound a bit artificial on the medusas, but trust me - it's better with better headphones (which is pretty much any stereo headphones over £20)

Then, I would strongly advise trying on a few sets of headphones before you buy any. I've got rid of some great sounding headphones because they just weren't comfortable. I'm currently flitting between Goldring NS1000s and iGrados. The latter are cheap but, imo, give pretty good bang for buck. They lack headstage but Dolby Headphone on the Xonar 'fakes it' anyway. Saving up for some Audio Technica ATH AD-700s. They have a reputation for being incredibly comfortable. Unfortunataly I've had to rule out keeping every set of open Senns I've tried (HD600, HD580, HD595, HD555, HD515) and the Goldring's main form factor (DR50, DR100, and the DR150, which I've not tried) because they clamped my head too much.
 
Well, firstly. Do not get anything USB. You have a great soundcard in the Xonar. The two are mutually exclusive.

Secondly - if your medusas will switch to stereo mode, do so. Have a mess around with the Dolby Headphone settings. (In Xonar control centre set audio chanels to 6 or 8, analog out to headphones and try all 3 dolby headphone settings). You should get an impression of the surround effect. I think the Medusas actually work better as a stereo set with Dolby Headphone than in the native 5.1 mode. They might sound a bit artificial on the medusas, but trust me - it's better with better headphones (which is pretty much any stereo headphones over £20)

Well, thanks for that advice, and a few questions if I may. In my Xonar Audio centre's Main screen, I don't seem to be able to change the audio channel number. Only options I have are 'sample rate', 'analog out' and 'SPDIF Out' (I have no idea what that is). SPDIF out drops down and forms a tree as follows:

*PCM
---*7.1 virtual speaker shifter
---*Dolby Pro Logic IIx
---*DTS NEO:PC
---*Dolby Headphone

*Dolby Digital Live:
---*7.1 virtual speaker shifter
---*Dolby Pro Logic IIx
---*DTS NEO:PC

*DTS Interactive:
---*7.1 virtual speaker shifter
---*Dolby Pro Logic IIx
---*DTS NEO:PC

*S/PDIF In Loopback:
---*7.1 virtual speaker shifter
---*Dolby Pro Logic IIx
---*DTS NEO:PC
---*Dolby Headphone

All of the above are tickboxes, multiple boxes can be ticked at once, except for 'Dolby Pro Logic IIx and 'DTS NEO:PC' of which only one can be active at any one time. From previous posts I have read it's the Dolby Headphone which makes the surround sound magic. Is it a simple case of using either 'PCM' or 'S/PDIF In Loopback' and enabling 'Dolby Headphone'? If so, which would I want, and what on earth do they stand for?

Other screens within the audio centre include 'Mixer', 'Effect', 'Karaoke', 'Flexbass', 'AEC', 'VocalFX' though I'm pretty sure from looking at those that they aren't relevant to attaining surround sound... though I could be wrong.

To be honest I knew nothing about audio prior to the past few days, so idiot proof help would be awesome! :D
 
'Analog out' has the audio channel numbers: 2,4, 5.1 etc. If you mean what I think you mean, otherwise ignore me :)

In any case, I have mine set like this, for stereo headphones:

Audio Channel: 2 channels
Sample Rate: PCM 96 KHz
Analog Out: Headphone

with Dolby Headphone ticked and room size depending on what I'm listening to. Produces a nice surround effect.
 
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'Analog out' has the audio channel numbers: 2,4, 5.1 etc. If you mean what I think you mean, otherwise ignore me :)

No no, quite right. However it doesn't contain the 6 or 8 Uriel referred to in his post. Simply Headphones, 2 speakers, 4 speakers, 5.1 speakers, 7.1 speakers. I could just be trying to follow it in far too much detail, but I thought it better to ask.
 
Might have got the wrong end of the stick, but 6 channel = 5.1 8 channel = 7.1.

So sounds like Uriel is saying stick it to 'Anolog Out' and either 5.1 or 7.1, if that's what you mean, if it isn't I'll go hush :D

*EDIT* I'll hush, don't think I understood ;)
 
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also be aware that sennhiesers take 100-200 hours to run in ... but omg do they sound good when ready ..using hd600 myself ... just need to get a good dac now
 
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