Istanbul - TURKEY Grand Prix 2009 - Race 7/17

Some more newsbites for you chaps!

Brabham family contests new team name
Legal action under consideration
Brabham not involved in the team project
bearing his name
Amongst the flurry of Formula One projects vying for a place on the extended 2010 grid, one name stood out to recall former days when it appeared that Brabham Grand Prix had filed its entry papers.

German businessman Franz Hilmer bought the assets of the former Super Aguri operation last year; in association with Formtech, he now intends to run the Brabham team next season under FIA President Max Mosley's budget cap plan.

However, triple World Champion Jack Brabham and his family are insisting that they have nothing do to with Hilmer's plans. In fact, they intend to prevent him from using their famous surname.

"Sir Jack Brabham and the Brabham family have expressed their surprise at the recent news reporting that an entry has been submitted for the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship by Formtech with the intention of operating as Brabham Grand Prix Limited," indicated a statement released on Thursday.

"The family would like to make it clear that they are in no way involved with Brabham Grand Prix Limited and received no consultation regarding the company's plans to resurrect their historic name in Formula One," the statement continued.



"The family is taking legal advice and will take necessary steps to protect their name, reputation and its goodwill," concluded the Brabham Enterprises Limited press release.

The company is celebrating its 50th anniversary this year.
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F1 teams' demands 'unrealistic' - Mosley
FIA defiant in the face of team demands
Max Mosley on Wednesday sounded unlikely to end F1's political conflict by surrendering to the existing teams' demands.

With Williams suspended from the FOTA alliance, every other current outfit last Friday lodged 'conditional' entries, as the deadline for signing up for next year's world championship expired.

They made clear their entries would be 'invalid' - thus potentially locking themselves off the 2010 grid - if the FIA did not sign a 2012 Concorde agreement, tear up the proposed budget cap rules, and agree their own cost-limiting proposals.

But when quoted by the Swiss publication Motorsport Aktuell, FIA President Mosley sounded unwilling to submit to the demands.

"We make the rules," he said, referring to the Paris-based federation that has governed the sport since 1950. "We have done it for 60 years and we are going to continue to do it. "

Mosley said he didn't know if the conflict would now proceed towards a solution, but dismissed most of the FOTA proposals as 'unrealistic'.

For instance, he said the teams' draft of their preferred Concorde agreement was finalised 'so late' that it is unreasonable to expect it signed by June 12.

He is also critical of the teams' move in lodging their 2010 entries within hours of the close of the May 29 deadline.

"If seems rather obvious that they were trying to make it difficult for the new teams," said Mosley, also noting the irony of the teams' meeting in glitzy Monaco, on Flavio Briatore's yacht, to discuss cost cutting.
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EddScott said:
Wait until you live with one and have a daughter - 2 against 1

You become intimate with the available recording devices and develop an ability to avoid all news coverage until they are both asleep. Then its couple of beers, big bag of crisps and fall asleep just after Martin does he walk :)
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Luckily for me, I work on a Sunday (from home) as I take Friday off to spend with my son, my wife then has him on Sunday so I can watch the race whilst toiling on my laptop.

Quali I have to watch on the iPlayer as we all spend Sat together for some family time, but that's a small sacrifice to have to make :)
 
Group of guys from a watch at the fire station went there last year -same lot are going this year. I'm in on Saturday night for one of them to cover their duty roster as they could not get it off, I will see what pics they have from this years event and post back. They got some really good ones last year. :D
 
I'm gunna say Vettel for the win, but then again, I've been saying that all year :p - imo he'll be world champion soon enough..... Maybe not this year, but soon

I think Turkey could be the first time we see what Red Bull can do with their new rear diffuser - They've been right up there without it, so challenging for the championship isnt out of the question?

I recomend checking pitpass as often as you check here :o .... especially around June 12th when Max may well tear the sport appart - legally only Williams and Ferrari and all the new teams have signed up to next year so far as I understand it

http://pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38040
 
Some more news this morning:

Force India defects, lodges 2010 entry
Team alliance stance starting to crumble?
Like suspended member Williams, Force India has broken ranks with the FOTA teams' alliance and unconditionally signed up to contest the 2010 world championship.

The move, reported by Germany's Auto Motor und Sport, leaves just eight current teams, including top outfits Ferrari and McLaren, threatening to sit out next season over the budget cap rules dispute with FIA President Max Mosley.

The eight teams had no official meetings planned for Istanbul, but Ferrari team boss Stefano Domenicali was on Thursday spotted entering the FIA motor home for a sit-down with Mosley's representative Alan Donnelly.

The Italian then moved on to the McLaren building. Mosley, and the FOTA Chairman Luca di Montezemolo, are not in Turkey this weekend.

Auto Motor und Sport reports that Brawn GP, which like Williams and Force India is an independent outfit that would likely welcome the budget cap's cost-limiting function, is not going to also defect.

"The recent proposal of the teams makes a great many concessions to the FIA," Ross Brawn is quoted as saying. "The result would be the same as Mosley's budget limit."

BMW's Mario Theissen on Thursday agreed that the proposal is similar to the budget cap, although the 'name' would have to change.
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I see Rosberg set the fastest time in First Practice this morning... 10 out of 19 times this season he has set the fastest time in Practice
 
Pratice 1 Results:


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Over Clocker said:
Some more news this morning:

Force India defects, lodges 2010 entry
Team alliance stance starting to crumble?
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Ian Phillips on Radio5Live during FP2 has said that Force India's entry went in last friday as part of the FOTA entry and that the entry window is now closed.

So that has rubbished the stories then.
 
Flibster said:
Ian Phillips on Radio5Live during FP2 has said that Force India's entry went in last friday as part of the FOTA entry and that the entry window is now closed.

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I also think he's right that half these stroys are rumours that have gone to print with no checking or evidence.
 
Vetel broke down, Hamilton span numerous times - seems his car is really lacking rear grip..
That was about it really.
 
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