Istanbul - TURKEY Grand Prix 2009 - Race 7/17

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TV times:
Istanbul - TURKEY
Friday 5 June
First practice: 0800-0930, BBC Red Button/online & BBC Radio 5 Live sports extra/online
Second practice: 1200-1330, BBC Red Button/online & BBC Radio 5 Live sports extra/online

Inside F1: 1830-1845, BBC News Channel, then repeated on the Red Button

Saturday 6 June
Third practice: 0900-1000, BBC Red Button/online & BBC Radio 5 Live sports extra/online

Qualifying: 1110-1315, BBC One/BBC Red Button/Radio 5 Live/online
Qualifying re-run: 1415-1215 (Sunday), BBC Red Button (Not available on Freeview)

Sunday 7 June

Race: 1210-1500, BBC One/BBC Red Button/Radio 5 Live/online
Race re-run: 1500-2200 (Tuesday), BBC Red Button (Limited availability on Freeview)

Interactive Forum: 1500-1600, BBC Red Button/online

Highlights: 1900-2000, BBC Three/BBC Red Button/online

Standings:
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Track:
BBC Circuit Guide

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http://www.f1-fansite.com/circuits/turkey.asp

Track Diagram
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Circuit information
Length: 5.338km
Race distance: 58 laps / 309.356km

Full throttle: 63%
Top speed: 315kph
Longest flat-out section: 16s / 1.2km
Right/left-hand turns: 6/8

Tyre wear: Medium/low
Brake wear: Medium
Downforce level: Medium/high
Gear changes per lap: 42

2009 tyre compounds: hard (prime, no marking), soft (option, green markings)
2008 tyre compounds: hard (prime, no marking), medium (option, white markings)

Istanbul Park - a Formula One set-up guide
The purpose-built anti-clockwise circuit on the outskirts of Istanbul offers a mix of challenging low and high-speed corners and has already established its position as a firm favourite with the drivers. Overtaking is difficult, especially in the first half of the lap, but the long back straight leading into the tight hairpin of Turn 12 offers the ideal opportunity for a lunge under braking. Combine this with the challenge of Turn Eight, which is one of the most demanding of the year, and you have all the ingredients for an exciting Grand Prix. Renault explain how they plan to ready the R29 for racing…

Suspension
As a relatively new facility the track surface at Istanbul is in good condition and the kerbs are not especially aggressive, which makes it quite straightforward to find a stable car balance. Renault will seek a compromise between stiffer settings for the high-speed part of the lap to give a good change of direction, and softer settings for the low-speed section, particularly the final few corners to ensure good mechanical grip.

Driver Nelson Piquet explains: "It's quite difficult to find the right compromise with car set-up at Istanbul because the lap is so varied in terms of corner speeds and grip. The last three corners of the lap are the slowest on the circuit, taken in second gear at around 80 km/h. Turn 12 after the long back straight is the biggest braking zone of the circuit and offers the best overtaking opportunity of the lap. It's easy to make a mistake here and go in too deep, which puts you out of position for the final couple of corners and can cost you a lot of time."

Aerodynamics
There are few critical high-speed corners at Istanbul Park, but the team will still run with medium downforce settings in order to carry good speed through the long left-hander of Turn Eight, which puts high g-forces through the drivers' necks.

Fernando Alonso explains: "Turn Eight is one of the quickest and longest left hand corners of the year. It's really a series of corners with four apexes, although we treat it as one apex and try to be as smooth as possible with the steering inputs. We don't touch the brake at any stage through the corner, and simply lift the throttle slightly to keep the car online. In the middle of the corner we're doing about 260km/h and you can really feel the g-forces on your body. It's easy to understeer wide in this corner, which will cost you a lot of time, but there's plenty of run-off to save you."

While the aero grip keeps the cars glued to the track through Turn Eight, it is mechanical grip that predominates between Turns Three to Five and Turns 12 to 14.

Brakes
The braking zone into Turn 12 after the long back straight is the most significant on the circuit. It also represents the best overtaking opportunity and will normally see plenty of action during the Grand Prix. Overall the circuit is not particularly demanding on the brakes, which have enough time to cool on the long straights before the main braking zones, although with medium downforce settings the drivers may struggle with locking of the rear brakes.

Tyres
The Turkish Grand Prix is quite a demanding track on the tyres, largely due to Turn Eight which puts high loadings through the tyres, particularly the front right. To avoid any potential problems, we can adjust suspension settings and front wing angle; however, we must always be mindful of finding the correct balance between protecting the tyres and maintaining mechanical grip, to ensure the car is quick in the more technical parts of the circuit. Bridgestone will supply the hard and soft compounds from their 2009 range, as was the case for the Spanish Grand Prix earlier in the year.

Engine
Istanbul presents a varied workout for the engine, requiring both good top speed and low end performance. Turn Eight remains a constant concern where the engine is concerned as it is important to ensure effective power delivery at high revs for good performance in this high-speed corner. Overall around 65 percent of the lap is spent on full throttle, which is about average for the circuits on the calendar


Classic Turkey Grand Prix
Classic F1 - Turkish Grand Prix 2005
Watch highlights from the 2005 Turkish Grand Prix as McLaren's Kimi Raikkonen wins the inaugural race in Istanbul ahead of Renault's Fernando Alonso.

Classic F1 - Turkish Grand Prix 2006
Watch highlights from the 2006 Turkish Grand Prix as Ferrari's Felipe Massa takes his maiden F1 victory ahead of Renault's Fernando Alonso and the second Ferrari Michael Schumacher.

Classic F1 - Turkish Grand Prix 2007
Watch highlights from the 2007 Turkish Grand Prix as a puncture costs Lewis Hamilton third place with Felipe Massa leading home a Ferrari one-two.

Classic F1 - Turkish Grand Prix 2008
Watch highlights from the 2008 Turkish Grand Prix as Ferrari's Felipe Massa wins his third race in a row at Istanbul ahead of Lewis Hamilton's McLaren.



Technical Changes - Monaco

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Weather Forecast
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News




The track and TV coverage starts

Technical changes turkey
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Inside F1 - Turkey GP preview
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Practice 1
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Highlights - Carpet chaos in Turkish practice
Williams' Nico Rosberg is fastest in Friday's first practice session for the Turkish Grand Prix at Istanbul Park, the session is disrupted due to some of the carpeting round the track coming loose.

Replay - Turkish GP first practice
A full replay of the first practice session for this weekend's Turkish Grand Prix.

Rosberg tops Turkey GP practice
Williams's Nico Rosberg was fastest in Friday's first practice session for the Turkish Grand Prix at Istanbul Park.
McLaren's Lewis Hamilton led for most of the session before the German snatched the top spot with a time of one minute 28.952 with his last lap.

Practice 2
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Highlights - Kovalainen fastest in Turkey
McLaren's Heikki Kovalainen posts the quickest time in Friday's second practice session for the Turkish Grand Prix

Replay - Turkish GP second practice
Replay - Turkish GP second practice

Practice 3
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Smooth Massa tops Turkey practice
Ferrari's Felipe Massa was quickest in a tight final practice session for Sunday's Turkish Grand Prix.

Qaulifying
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Vettel beats Button to grab pole
Highlights - Vettel storms to pole in Turkey (UKonly)

Vettel beats Button to grab pole
Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel snatched pole position in a thrilling finale to qualifying for the Turkish Grand Prix.

Drivers' news conference in full
Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel appears surprised but pleased with the speed of his car as he secured pole position for the Turkish Grand Prix, ahead of the Brawn GP drivers Jenson Button and Rubens Barrichello.

Replay - Vettel's Turkish pole lap
Watch a in-car replay of Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel securing pole position for the Turkish Grand Prix

Fuel Loads
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Race
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Brilliant Button on top in Turkey
Highlights - Button wins in Turkey

Drivers' news conference in full
Jenson Button says his Brawn GP car was "immense" and the best it has been all season as he wins the Turkish Grand Prix ahead of Red Bull's Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel.

Replay - Turkey F1 forum Not uploaded yet

Standings
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Team previews

Brawn GP - http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38052

Toyota - http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38051

Toro Rosso - http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38050

Williams - http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38049

Red Bull - http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38043

McLaren - http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38042

BMW - http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38041

Ferrari - http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=38059




Should be an interesting race, following Monaco and the re-ordering of the grid. I thought Brawn would struggle after the fly away races, but still seem strong in Spain and Monte-Carlo. I hope they keep development up. Lots of new wings and bits coming for most the teams due to the high speed track this weekend.
 
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Turkey isn't my favourite track, despite it being a happy hunting ground for Ferrari since it came on the calendar. Hopefully they'll maintain their momentum from the last race and stay up at the pointy end of things.
 
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My maths isn't that great so can anyone else confirm that if Button gets 3 more first place finishes then it's mathematically impossible for him to be beaten to the world champonship...?
 
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My maths isn't that great so can anyone else confirm that if Button gets 4 more first place finishes then it's mathematically impossible for him to be beaten to the world champonship...?

That would take him to 91points.
There would be 7 races left so 10points max from each = 70 points.

Next contender is Rubens with 35 so that + 70 would make him winner and then theirs points for the 4 races that button wins in. So nope he needs a few more than 4 victories to attain world champion. but another 4 would make it very hard.
 
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Roman street grand Prix??

The prospects of a Grand Prix on Roman city streets has taken another step forwards.

Following speculation that the Italian capital is hoping to organise a Formula One race, it emerges that the sport's Chief Executive Bernie Ecclestone is also serious about the project.

London's Evening Standard reports that the 78-year-old billionaire last month applied for a pan-European trademark to the name 'Formula One Gran Premio di Roma'.

It is suggested the event, slated for the city's modern EUR district, could be added to the 2011 calendar.

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March aiming to return to F1

March is among the teams to have lodged an entry for the 2010 Formula 1 World Championship.

March Racing Organisation still exists as a non-trading registered company, despite not having any involvement in motorsport since the F1 team collapsed in the build-up to the 1993 season.

The company is owned by British businessman and chairman of English football club Swindon Town, Andrew Fitton, who acquired March in 1993.

The team is unwilling to make any further comment on its plans until the FIA announces its 2010 entry list on June 12.

AUTOSPORT understands that March has nominated Cosworth as its engine supplier on its application and would have to start up its operation from scratch should it be granted an entry.

March Engineering was co-founded by FIA president Max Mosley, along with Alan Rees, Robin Herd and Graham Coaker.

In 1970, it made its first foray into F1 as both a works team and a customer car supplier, with the Ken Tyrrell-run March 701 of Jackie Stewart taking a debut pole.

In all, March started 197 grands prix, winning the 1970 Spanish, 1975 Austrian and 1976 Italian Grands Prix, before dropping out of F1 for good after the 1992 season, during which it scored just three points.

March is one of a number of teams that has lodged entries for F1. Among its rivals for entries are Prodrive, Lola, Team Superfund, Team US F1, Litespeed, Epsilon Euskadi and Campos Meta1.
 
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Loving this!!! :D

March is one of a number of teams that has lodged entries for F1. Among its rivals for entries are Prodrive, Lola, Team Superfund, Team US F1, Litespeed, Epsilon Euskadi and Campos Meta1

So are all these teams gonna allowed to join or is there a cap on the max number of teams? Its going be like old times where teams wont even qualify! :D
 
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All these new teams signing up for next year, which I assume is if the budget cap stays. Lets assume the cap is 45 million. Do they get to spend extra because they are starting from scratch?

Its a hell of a lot easier for an established team to get by on 45 million than a team that needs a factory, windtunnel etc.

All these new teams will still be in effect a poor team due to startinf with nothing, thus creating a two tier system anyway.
 
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All these new teams signing up for next year, which I assume is if the budget cap stays. Lets assume the cap is 45 million. Do they get to spend extra because they are starting from scratch?

Its a hell of a lot easier for an established team to get by on 45 million than a team that needs a factory, windtunnel etc.

All these new teams will still be in effect a poor team due to startinf with nothing, thus creating a two tier system anyway.
Who cares... so long as March get IC and MG back as their two drivers, I will be in heaven! :D
 
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Who cares... so long as March get IC and MG back as their two drivers, I will be in heaven! :D

Just need to get Adrian Newey back as designer after that! I remember the French GP of 1990 at Paul Ricard where Cappelli's March (Leyton House) was leading until Prost finally overtook to win.
 
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Loving this!!! :D



So are all these teams gonna allowed to join or is there a cap on the max number of teams? Its going be like old times where teams wont even qualify! :D

There is a maximum of 26 cars allowed on the grid, so 13 teams. Assuming all current 10 teams race next year, that leaves room for 3 new ones.

I would imagine, from that list, we could be looking at March, USF1 and joint collaboration between Prodrive and Lola perhaps?
 
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