Passat CC 3.6 FSI GT

Wayn0r · 5 Jun 2009 at 10:58

latest gen haldex, allows torque transfer upto 75% to rear unlike the earlier maximum of a 50/50 split. and the response times/sensors mean you can barely tell when its only running the front wheels.

All the benefits of AWD with the fuel economy of a FWD car. cant really see a downside to haldex??

olv · 5 Jun 2009 at 11:36

Wayn0r said:
latest gen haldex, allows torque transfer upto 75% to rear unlike the earlier maximum of a 50/50 split. and the response times/sensors mean you can barely tell when its only running the front wheels.

All the benefits of AWD with the fuel economy of a FWD car. cant really see a downside to haldex??

What's happening with your car?! not seen an update for a while, do share

[TW]Fox · 5 Jun 2009 at 12:09

Wayn0r said:
All the benefits of AWD with the fuel economy of a FWD car. cant really see a downside to haldex??

There are no downsides compared to FWD but it's neither RWD nor proper 4WD, which is why as far as most people are concerned it may as well be FWD.

mjt · 5 Jun 2009 at 14:46

[TW]Fox;14220433 said:
There are no downsides compared to FWD but it's neither RWD nor proper 4WD, which is why as far as most people are concerned it may as well be FWD.

but it's not FWD, it's 4wd.

would you consider the first generation X5 4wd? because that was a 70-30 split, so according to you, it's RWD..

come off it, FWD = FRONT wheels only

Rwac · 5 Jun 2009 at 16:19

[TW]Fox;14217828 said:
You can buy pretty much any car you can think of for low £20k's - from a Mercedes SL500 to a BMW M5 to an Audi S4.

Or a Passat.

Show me a 58 plate with 5k miles low 20k BMW M5

Phil W · 5 Jun 2009 at 16:25

peterattheboro said:
I LOVE the look of the Passat CC

mrk · 5 Jun 2009 at 16:49

It looks like a Matchbox toy car with the high height and big wheels - stilt like?

Meh.

Muffin` · 5 Jun 2009 at 16:58

Rwac said:
Show me a 58 plate with 5k miles low 20k BMW M5

oh so you want 5k miles? I can't see any 5k CC's on AT with the V6, there's a few between 7-10k, not exactly much different I guess. I did see this: http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-u...cleYearOfManufacture=2007&vehicleRegLetter=57

[TW]Fox · 5 Jun 2009 at 18:00

mjt said:
would you consider the first generation X5 4wd? because that was a 70-30 split, so according to you, it's RWD..

It is full time 4wd irrespective of the split.

Wayn0r · 5 Jun 2009 at 18:02

[TW]Fox;14223192 said:
It is full time 4wd irrespective of the split.

so are all the haldex equipped cars...

[TW]Fox · 5 Jun 2009 at 18:03

Wayn0r said:
so are all the haldex equipped cars...

So the Haldex cars are ALWAYS driving all 4 wheels?

whitecrook · 5 Jun 2009 at 18:05

Don't rate the CC much from what I can see.

How much are Phaetons these days? I wouldn't mind one of them.

oweneades · 5 Jun 2009 at 18:06

[TW]Fox;14223222 said:
So the Haldex cars are ALWAYS driving all 4 wheels?

IIRC under normal driving conditions the haldex system on my R32 is 90:10 (front : rear) and then splits more (50:50) when slip is detected, so yes technically its always driving all 4 wheels.

[TW]Fox · 5 Jun 2009 at 18:07

oweneades said:
IIRC under normal driving conditions the haldex system on my R32 is 90:10 (front : rear) and then splits more (50:50) when slip is detected, so yes technically its always driving all 4 wheels.

Hmmm only technically then really, not as if that 10% does anything

Janesy B · 5 Jun 2009 at 18:10

I don't think it was much as 50:50, I'm sure it's more like 70:30.

Janesy B · 5 Jun 2009 at 18:11

I don't think it was much as 50:50, I'm sure it's more like 70:30 and when no slip is detected its 100:0.

Wayn0r · 5 Jun 2009 at 18:54

incorrect.

The haldex system on the mk5 r32 can put upto 75% power to the rear wheels. Under normal driving conditions its 90:10 or 85:15 (opinions vary).

The reason most rolling roads request the haldex controller or fuse to be removed is because all 4 wheels have power all the time, regardless of how much power is there.

WantoN · 5 Jun 2009 at 19:07

[TW]Fox;14223247 said:
Hmmm only technically then really, not as if that 10% does anything

[TW]Fox;14223192 said:
It is full time 4wd irrespective of the split.

It's not a horrendous looking car, and I wasn't expecting it to look like that on paper :eek I'm not a huge fan of most VW offerings though.

Ant :cool:

OllyM · 5 Jun 2009 at 20:32

oweneades said:
IIRC under normal driving conditions the haldex system on my R32 is 90:10 (front : rear) and then splits more (50:50) when slip is detected, so yes technically its always driving all 4 wheels.

Changed your car yet again?

philjohn · 5 Jun 2009 at 21:04

Seen in the flesh they don't look stilt like, that's a really bad photo on the VW website.