3.0 v6 turbo diesel vectra ?

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Draeger said:
Said the bloke who drives an old BMW. :rolleyes:
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I didn't buy an old BMW, though, it was the same age as your car is now when I bought it so I'm not entirely sure what your point is?

It just happens that its so damn good, unlike a Vectra, that I simply cannot think of a reason to replace it so it stays, and therefore, gets older. Just like you are getting older ;)

You are SO defensive, you seem very insecure about your choice of car. Who are you trying to convince again?
 
[TW]Fox;14215630 said:
Life is too short to spend thousands of pounds on products which are average, or not bad.
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Might want to tell that to the tens of millions driving "average" or "not bad" cards as they vastly outnumber any "premium" brands. Fact is most people don't care. Faced with the choice of a bmw with 90k on it or a vectra with 20k any regular driver would probably take the vectra mainly for the lower milage.

Most cars on the road are simply a to b cars, vectras do that fine and are good motorway cruisers. Why pop more for something that in their minds does the same job but for more cash? You're looking it at from a car enthusiasts point of view, a view that in the minority by far in the grand scheme of things.
 
[TW]Fox;14217837 said:
Blah, blah, blah.....
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Ahh...I though that might rattle your cage a bit. ;)

I'm not trying to "convince" anyone, but I've obviously touched a nerve there, eh?.

The OP asked for info on a Vectra 3.0 V6 CDTi and some replies were given. But as per usual, we see the same Vectra haters pop up out of the woodwork. There's really no point in anyone asking here about anything Vauxhall flavoured as the usual suspects will pop up and post their misguided tirades in an attempt to feel smug and confirm with the "OcUK Vectras are rubbish" attitude which is abundantly obvious here.

[TW]Fox;14217837 said:
You are SO defensive, you seem very insecure about your choice of car. Who are you trying to convince again?
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Pot

Kettle

Black

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[TW]Fox;14215630 said:
Life is too short to spend thousands of pounds on products which are average, or not bad.
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some of us have different priorities though fox

Yours would seem to be interior build quality. Thats why you hold the e39 in very high esteem, so high that you probably wont buy an e60 due to its interior being "inferior build quality"

Personally, i dont give a damn about the dashboard and interior and chose the VXR for its power and handling.
 
Draeger said:
The OP asked for info on a Vectra 3.0 V6 CDTi and some replies were given. But as per usual, we see the same Vectra haters pop up out of the woodwork. There's really no point in anyone asking here about anything Vauxhall flavoured as the usual suspects will pop up and post their misguided tirades in an attempt to feel smug and confirm with the "OcUK Vectras are rubbish" attitude which is abundantly obvious here.
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I can't speak for anyone else but my opinions on Vauxhalls are not misguided, are not an attempt to jump onto a bandwagon and are born from nothing more than my own personal experiences formed from driving the Vauxhall range.

Every single Vauxhall I've ever driven I've thoroughly disliked. Of the ones I've merely been in, I've liked very, very few of them. I'm sorry if that upsets you, but I don't like them, so when asked on a public discussion forum if they are any good, will voice my opinion. Usually I'll even justify it. And it's absolutely NOT badge snobbery - you won't hear me saying a bad word about some of Renaults range, I'm a fan of some of the Ford range, etc etc. I can NEVER be found on this forum saying 'That 40k mile regular car is completely crap LOL get a BMW instead'. Quite why people think this is what I continually post continues to elude me - I just don't say stuff like that, and probably discourage more people from premium marques than I encourage.

And it isnt just this forum, is it? It's everywhere bar the Vauxhall forums. There was a 30 page epic on PH about why Vectras were so horrid the other month. Just seems like too much bad sentiment for it all to be lies and Vectras are actually great..
 
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Well, we will agree to disagree then. :D

By the same token, I've driven many a Ford and hated them. Matey has a 55 plate Mondy ST Diesel and its seriously boring to drive. He's driven my Vec V6 and postitively prefers my car to his for driving pleasure, performance and ability.

I've driven his ST Mondy and it doesn't hold a candle to my Vectra. ;)
 
Draeger said:
Ahh...I though that might rattle your cage a bit. ;)

I'm not trying to "convince" anyone, but I've obviously touched a nerve there, eh?.

The OP asked for info on a Vectra 3.0 V6 CDTi and some replies were given. But as per usual, we see the same Vectra haters pop up out of the woodwork. There's really no point in anyone asking here about anything Vauxhall flavoured as the usual suspects will pop up and post their misguided tirades in an attempt to feel smug and confirm with the "OcUK Vectras are rubbish" attitude which is abundantly obvious here.
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My opinions are not misguided, they're based on my recent experience with driving the equivalent models of the current Ford and Vauxhall lineup - Astra/Focus, Vectra/Mondeo, and a Zafira (We had a C-Max hire car and I didn't drive it but I was told it was better than the Zafira, go figure). Ford's models ARE better in my opinion.
 
I suppose we could debate exactly what constitutes 'better', but I certainly think that most Ford cars are a better drive, than the Vauxhall equivalent, they also tend to have nicer interiors. Weather or not they are more reliable I do not know, I doubt there is much in it in that regard tbh.

One of the biggest differences I have found is the steering, nearly all the Ford's (post 1999 or so) I have driven have had decent to very good steering feel, it's precise, quick and just nice to use, Vauxhall's 'tend' to be lighter and woollier and really lacking any real feel or that sense of precision you get from a lot of Fords, Vauxhalls just don't seem to 'flow' as well as Fords. Generally speaking of course, but this has been my experience with all kinds of both cars, from the Fiesta and Corsa through the Focus and Astra up to the Mondeo and Vectra. Most of the Ford cars have had a nicer more precise/accurate gear change aswell.

I know which I think is better, but I will encourage the op to drive both, and decide for himself.
 
Moeks said:
One of the biggest differences I have found is the steering, nearly all the Ford's (post 1999 or so)
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I read somewhere after the Escort (Focus) they said they'd never go back to poor handling cars again, ala what we have today :)
 
My personal opinion on Vectras is that they "aren't bad". If you get a low spec Vectra with cheap engine you'll want to kill yourself every time you get inside it.

However my father has been running the 3l V6 Turbo Vectra 'Elite' as his work car for almost two years now. In all that time all that's gone wrong with it was the ECU stuffed up once and the car wouldn't go above 30. However it was such a minor problem the AA man was able to fix it at the side of the road.

In terms of interior, which tends to be where the Vectra gets slaughtered. His is trimmed with all of the extras, and I honestly think it is quite a good interior. It is no more plasticy than 'better' cars in this price bracket I've been in such as BMWs/Fords etc, even though the plastics aren't the best quality, there is no rattling etc when driving along. When your driving along it irons out pot holes, and the ride quality is quite comfy "for a Vauxhall".

As for the engine, it is definitely a good engine. It throws out a lot more power than most people expect, and isn't an engine that you have to thrash to death just to go uphill. His car is used for lugging furniture around, and even whe the car is loaded up it never struggles to go up extremely steep hills in 3rd/4th without speeding.

In the end, yes it's a good carm hyst make sure you get a good spec one or you will hate it. A lot of the hate for the car is either people jumping on the Clarkson bandwagon, or people driving crap ones and drawing opinions from there.
 
Howard said:
My opinions are not misguided, they're based on my recent experience with driving the equivalent models of the current Ford and Vauxhall lineup - Astra/Focus, Vectra/Mondeo, and a Zafira (We had a C-Max hire car and I didn't drive it but I was told it was better than the Zafira, go figure). Ford's models ARE better in my opinion.
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I've got a 55 plate zafira, 62k on the clock, 1.9 cdti 150 design and had it for a couple of years now. Since I've had it it's been back to the garage twice, once for a replacement DPF and the other was for a replacement clutch. I don't drive it like I stole it, it's a A to B car for moving the family about.

However as soon as I can I want rid of it. The engine is ok, but hte build quality isn't great. There are sweaks and rattles from all over the place, and now when selecting 4th gear it crunches about 50% of the time.

Before the zafira I had pretty much all the ford range in so much as a couple of fiestas, a puma, a focus, and a mondeo over the years. I never had a single problem with any of them, no sweaks, no engine trouble, nothing.

As soon as I can I will be trading in the zafira for either a mondeo or focus (or kuga?).
 
shauncr91 said:
In terms of interior, which tends to be where the Vectra gets slaughtered. His is trimmed with all of the extras, and I honestly think it is quite a good interior. It is no more plasticy than 'better' cars in this price bracket I've been in such as BMWs
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How can you honestly say this? Even the most ardant of Vauxhall fanboys wouldnt be daft enough as to say that the interior of a Vectra is no more plasticy than a BMW!
 
[TW]Fox;14220396 said:
How can you honestly say this? Even the most ardant of Vauxhall fanboys wouldnt be daft enough as to say that the interior of a Vectra is no more plasticy than a BMW!
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Maybe it was a bit of a harsh sweeping statement, but a lot of BMW's I've been in have been far from the god send of interior quality that people go on about.

Still, they are nowhere near as bad as you make out on here.
 
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