The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

dirtydog said:
Even when they are off duty? In their private life? Aren't they allowed to have one?
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Cops cannot take an active part in politics be it on or off duty and that is for any political party.

Given the extreme right views of the BNP, they were specifically highlighted as being especially forbidden and to the point that you willl face disciplinary action if found to be involved in BNP activity.

The views of the BNP are not compatible with the values of the modern police service.
 
UK|AL said:
I don't think the police should voice support for any party on the job. It's not professional.
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How about the firemen who were almost fired for not promoting "Gay Pride"? Or got into trouble for shining a torch on Gay Doggers (Despite the doggers committing a criminal offence and not the Firemen). Double standards by the liberal guardian clan, in their eyes you are less equal if you are not gay, bi, lesbian, disabled, an immigrant or vote conservative. Lord help if they ever find out you consider yourself English. Anything but English.
 
Von Smallhausen said:
Cops cannot take an active part in politics be it on or off duty and that is for any political party.

Given the extreme right views of the BNP, they were specifically highlighted as being especially forbidden and to the point that you willl face disciplinary action if found to be involved in BNP activity.

The views of the BNP are not compatible with the values of the modern police service.
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If they don't join the BNP and keep their BNP sympathies to themselves, and don't let it affect their performance in the job, is there any reason why they shouldn't be permitted to vote BNP, in the privacy and sanctity of the polling booth?
 
dirtydog said:
If they don't join the BNP and keep their BNP sympathies to themselves, and don't let it affect their performance in the job, is there any reason why they shouldn't be permitted to vote BNP, in the privacy and sanctity of the polling booth?
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I presume there is nothing wrong with voting...just taking part in their activities?

Not sure though....Although I've tried putting this point across in previous threads, yet people can't seem to grasp it :)
 
Rybo89 said:
whys thats?

even though i wouldn't ever bother to waste my time voting anyway....
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TUT....if you dont vote, then you have ignored the fact that (in a democracy) you have missed the opportunity to voice your opinion.

I think voting should be compulsory in the UK, at around 50% turn out (give or take) this time surely suggests as always that the result is never an accurate picture of the way people in this country feel about politics. :(

edit: as far as the BNP are concerned,the lack of support for them suggest that they are a spent force and much of their suppressed racism still doesnt convince people that they are "different" from the way they were before......good news and good riddance for a bunch of ignorant, bigoted thugs
 
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dirtydog said:
I don't disagree with that, and they were never going to power through to become a large party this time, but they have made historic gains and as I don't see things improving in this country re immigration and multiculturalism etc. I only see the BNP going from strength to strength.

It is a measure of how far the BNP has come that people are not surprised they have won seats on county councils and they may elect an MEP as well, which would be an incredible achievement.
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Or alternatively, rather than the BNP going from strength to strength, is it rather a measure of the main parties going from weakness to weakness?

Look how many people voted BNP as a 'protest' despite what the BNP stands for, rather than because - do you really think they will keep voting that way if the BNP gets anywhere near looking like power?

If the BNP completely revise their policies, bin their leadership and upper hierarchy, and change their name, then they might have a chance.
 
Delvis said:
Which are just complete PAP anyway...so meh :p
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That is quite another debate my friend. ;)

dirtydog said:
If they don't join the BNP and keep their BNP sympathies to themselves, and don't let it affect their performance in the job, is there any reason why they shouldn't be permitted to vote BNP, in the privacy and sanctity of the polling booth?
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There is a single reason in that the powers that be say no you cannot.
 
Broadie said:
TUT....if you dont vote, then you have ignored the fact that (in a democracy) you have missed the opportunity to voice your opinion.

I think voting should be compulsory in the UK, at around 50% turn out (give or take) this time surely suggests as always that the result is never an accurate picture of the way people in this country feel about politics. :(
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True, not compulsory I don't think though...just make people more aware....bleeding country would turn into a dictatorship if you implemented that.
 
Broadie said:
TUT....if you dont vote, then you have ignored the fact that (in a democracy) you have missed the opportunity to voice your opinion.

I think voting should be compulsory in the UK, at around 50% turn out (give or take) this time surely suggests as always that the result is never an accurate picture of the way people in this country feel about politics. :(

edit: as far as the BNP are concerned,the lack of support for them suggest that they are a spent force and much of their suppressed racism still doesnt convince people that they are "different" from the way they were before......good news and good riddance for a bunch of ignorant, bigoted thugs
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Surely abstaining from voting is the same as ticking the "NONE OF THE ABOVE" box?
 
Rich_L said:
Or alternatively, rather than the BNP going from strength to strength, is it rather a measure of the main parties going from weakness to weakness?

Look how many people voted BNP as a 'protest' despite what the BNP stands for, rather than because - do you really think they will keep voting that way if the BNP gets anywhere near looking like power?

If the BNP completely revise their policies, bin their leadership and upper hierarchy, and change their name, then they might have a chance.
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Nick Griffin is probably the most impressive leader of any party in this country, he runs rings round the other lot and is the BNP's greatest asset.
 
They might not have done too well nationally but support is still there. They won 8000 votes in the doncaster mayoral election! (Which, incidentally, was ultimately won by the English democrats (!) candidate who won 25,000 votes!)
 
Rich_L said:
Or alternatively, rather than the BNP going from strength to strength, is it rather a measure of the main parties going from weakness to weakness?

Look how many people voted BNP as a 'protest' despite what the BNP stands for, rather than because - do you really think they will keep voting that way if the BNP gets anywhere near looking like power?

If the BNP completely revise their policies, bin their leadership and upper hierarchy, and change their name, then they might have a chance.
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Or if a mainstream party binned all this PC nonsense and stopped pandering to the minority vote at the expense of the majority then they would achieve a landslide.
 
dirtydog said:
Nick Griffin is probably the most impressive leader of any party in this country, he runs rings round the other lot and is the BNP's greatest asset.
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How does he impress you ?

As for being the BNPs greatest asset, they are not renowned for having a pool of formidable political talent.

Stick Nick Griffin on Question Time with razor sharp politicians such as William Hague and he would be taken to pieces.
 
So impressive indeed that in the '05 general election he polled a massive 9.2% of votes in his constituency :p

They might not have done too well nationally but support is still there. They won 8000 votes in the doncaster mayoral election! (Which, incidentally, was ultimately won by the English democrats (!) candidate who won 25,000 votes!)
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Yes 8,000 votes. Out of 75,000.

It's not unreasonable to suggest 10% of the population are 'that stupid'.
 
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