You forgot to read this part:
I've even highlighted the parts to make it easier for you.
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You forgot to read this part:
I've even highlighted the parts to make it easier for you.
Probably went straight over there heads with a statement of "How can YOU think such a thing!!!11".
And to clear peoples heads, I don't believe nor disbelieve who would be better off regarding who won the war, nor do I follow any political parties.
Anecdotes aren't evidence, especially when they are easily demonstrated to be flawed.
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You could attribute that to having a dictator as a leader as one point or you could simply attribute it to a difference in culture - personally I'd prefer some slight disrespect years down the line than several million being sent to their death for little more than a whim but we can agree to disagree at this point if you wish.
I'd suggest he didn't since he used the term "In fact, since you seem to agree with him..." - if he hadn't read that part he would have made reference to the effect that it was NW_SKINHEAD's opinion alone and not something someone else said and he appeared to agree with. It seems a trifle ironic to correct someone on their comprehension skills when you've not followed all they've posted either.
Like the recession now then?
Not when said dictator wasn't alive during they're upbringing. But as you said it's difference in culture and how thing's are done, if that is a knock on effect because of the war and actions taken place who knows
Meh, merely pointing out thing's people fail to read obviously.
Am I an expert in quoting like yourself and others no, obviously not.
So what if he agrees with him? It's personal opinion, yet he stated it was the veterans opinion in the first place...That's my point. It's no different than you or I disagreeing with the veterans statement.
I just see thing's from different angles as opposed to many on here, so I can give different viewpoints from both sides of the court
I like how in the crazy anecdotal evidence given to try and support their backward views it is always "many people think like this", "many ww2 veterans believe this"
The locals shown the exact opposite of that, that infact next to nobody thinks the way you do ... even the Lib Dems who are treated as a joke with no immediate hope of ever seeing a term in government are an insanely gigantic political body in relation to the BNP.
I wonder how many of those Veterans who claim to wish the Nazis had won the war had been amongst those who discovered the concentration camps. Although I guess this queues OcUK's resident holocaust deniers to chirp in.
The locals shown the exact opposite of that, that infact next to nobody thinks the way you do ... even the Lib Dems who are treated as a joke with no immediate hope of ever seeing a term in government are an insanely gigantic political body in relation to the BNP.
I wonder how many of those Veterans who claim to wish the Nazis had won the war had been amongst those who discovered the concentration camps. Although I guess this queues OcUK's resident holocaust deniers to chirp in.
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Many is a word that can be taken out of proportion granted
More than likely used because people don't know the exact figure.
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I didn't necessarily mean that the dictator had to be alive during their lifetime but if you look at countries that have had dictators in the relatively recent past (say 100 years or so) many of them have struggled to throw off their legacy for good or ill.
You're perfectly right in saying we can't know for sure what has caused this apparant difference in culture, what I can say with absolute certainty is that I wouldn't trade our present situation with all its various faults for having had a megalomaniacal dictator in the relatively recent past at any price.
Meh, merely pointing out thing's people fail to read obviously.
Am I an expert in quoting like yourself and others no, obviously not.
So what if he agrees with him? It's personal opinion, yet he stated it was the veterans opinion in the first place...That's my point. It's no different than you or I disagreeing with the veterans statement.
I just see thing's from different angles as opposed to many on here, so I can give different viewpoints from both sides of the court
I'm not claiming to be an expert in anything, I never have.
With that out the way, it would appear to me that Stolly is simply trying to get NW_SKINHEAD to imagine what the situation would be if a facist regime were in charge along the lines of the Third Reich. If you can understand and empathise then you've got an opportunity to consider issues from anothers point of view, that's a valuable skill - understanding that such a regime would be detrimental to so many people in this country should give an inkling as to why it is an utterly abysmal idea.
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Yeah we'd be living in some sad boring ethnically cleansed routine run by an evil dictator. Probably created an uprising after a massive amount of innocent people were killed, then a large chunk of people in that would die but probably eventually overthrow hitler.
Personally i'd rather my freedom, not to mention many of my freinds would have been killed.
A ww2 vet who says they'd rather hitler would have won can't be the sharpest tool in the shed anyway.
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Well yes, can't say I'd rather have a dictator leading the country, I was merely putting a point across so glad you can understand that
I'm not claiming to be an expert in anything, I never have.
With that out the way, it would appear to me that Stolly is simply trying to get NW_SKINHEAD to imagine what the situation would be if a facist regime were in charge along the lines of the Third Reich. If you can understand and empathise then you've got an opportunity to consider issues from anothers point of view, that's a valuable skill - understanding that such a regime would be detrimental to so many people in this country should give an inkling as to why it is an utterly abysmal idea.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, I can see how it would be abysmal, as I said and you agreed on, I just like to see thing's from both sides and take them both into account, that is all really. But thanks for replying as well.
Likewise matey, I'd rather my freedom, it was more of a question than a statement by myself.
Although some do speculate that we are actually heading towards a dictatorship of some kind.
Are we entering a dictatorship? Not directly, but Labour seemed determined to get all tools into place to enable an authoritarian dictatorship to be operated effectively through the removal of freedoms and the constant survellance they are always trying to implement
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Well the chances are that GORDON won't run for the next general election. So that means he came into power without a vote, and he left without a vote. That isn't democracy by my books 
Well the chances are that GORDON won't run for the next general election. So that means he came into power without a vote, and he left without a vote. That isn't democracy by my books
Given that the public doesn't vote for the PM, it doesn't matter really, and there was a vote, from his party.
He will, however, be the most incompetant PM to never contest a general election
To be fair, much as I despise Brown myself, I think much of the criticism levelled against him is unfair. I consider him head and shoulders above John Major for example (not saying much admittedly)
To be fair, much as I despise Brown myself, I think much of the criticism levelled against him is unfair. I consider him head and shoulders above John Major for example (not saying much admittedly)
John Major called a vote of no confidence, and a leadership election when his authority looked weak, and won them both. Brown has sat in the corner and whimpered a bit while refusing to give anyone a vote on his future.
Do you seriously consider the man who singlehandly screwed the economy for decades with his appalling spending plans to be better than the PM who lead the recovery that Labour inherited?
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He didn't screw the economy, you're blaming the government when it has sweet **** all to do with them. It's the banking system that screwed the economy.
The banking system for which Brown, as chancellor of the exchequer, set up the new regulatory system for?
And the thing that will damage the economy for decades is the excessive government borrowing (as in borrowing more than all the other governments ever combined in 3 years), the policy of increasing borrowing during a boom time meaning there was absolutely no economic flexibility when the recession started... And yes, that happened under Brown's chancellorship, before continuing under his premiership.
The banking system is not the millstone that will hang around the next generation's neck, that's Brown's spending of billions that we have never had.
Whatever Brown's flaws, you look foolish if you are blaming the banking crisis and recession on him, when it originated in America and is very much a worldwide phenomenon!
Don't forget 'Dave' Cameron was calling for less regulation of the banking system!