The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

what abotu this Islamic Party of Britain, "who are to be offered practical alternatives to the mounting problems of modern society and may be helped to understand that as an ideology and way of life Islam is superior to the failed ideologies of capitalism and communism." a party based on religious racist party. no one complains about those.
http://www.islamicparty.com/
This [party have got no media attention - which is a very positive thing. Extreme parties be it BNP or a religious far right is not a way forward. That said, main parties shouldn't such muppets either.

Then it should be on a seperate form.
It was on a separate form. If your job have it on the same form, you are entitled to ignore it or complain.
 
what abotu this Islamic Party of Britain, "who are to be offered practical alternatives to the mounting problems of modern society and may be helped to understand that as an ideology and way of life Islam is superior to the failed ideologies of capitalism and communism." a party based on religious racist party. no one complains about those.


http://www.islamicparty.com/

Firstly, that site hasn't been updated since 2005, so I doubt there's much activity there. Secondly there is nothing on the site saying membership is restricted only to Muslims, again in contrast to the BNP.

I'm still waiting for someone to provide an example of a group that has similar prohibitions on membership to the BNP enshrined in party law.
 
Actually, there are a variety of voting systems that can be used in democracy. If this had been a general election using FPTP, the BNP wouldn't have registered anything, likewise it if had been contested under single transferable vote or mixed member voting (other versions of PR that are generally preferable to the party list system used for the EU elections), again, they wouldn't have won anything.

But that only holds relevence if those particular systems are in use.

The combination of Party List PR and low turnout is what has given the BNP these seats, their actual support level hasn't risen significantly, and even in their 'heartlands' (generally areas of the north of england with below average educational standards and above average unemployment) they are still only 4th, (in the south, they are usually 5th, so even lower down the order).

I disagree with what your saying. Granted the figures are not flattering for any political party, but does that not show a complete lack of faith in politics as a whole? And if it does then surely it is understandable that all parties would see a decline in votes. To simply brand the BNP as being unsuccessful when they are seeing the same downturn as other groups is unfair.[/QUOTE]

It's tragic that some people have decided that a party that is institutionally racist best represents their ideas, because it's such a non-british attitude that goes against our traditions and history. It's even more tragic that these people think they are preserving the british traditions by doing it.

Perhaps people are being forced to vote in this direction since majority of other parties seem so keen to neglect our traditions in favour of what they (not the general public) believe.

Anyway, politics suck. They're bordering on farcial nowadays.
 
I seen Griffin on the election results last night attempting to defend why his party are inherently racist.

It made me both amused and disgusted.

What is disgusting about having a party which represents white Britons?

Every other race and religion has a plethora of groups and parties which represent them. Why not the indigenous people of this land? What is disgusting about that exactly?
 
For example is the amount of money ( tax I pay) is wasted on bloody interpreters in our schools,hospitals and criminal justice system.

How does this penalise white people? Non-whites pay tax too, you know.

Overcrowded schools where English is no longer the 1st language ( can you believe this, if you come here at least have the decency to speak the bloody language)


just some examples.

That doesn't penalise white people either. I don't like it, but it has no effect on me whatsoever.
 
what abotu this Islamic Party of Britain, "who are to be offered practical alternatives to the mounting problems of modern society and may be helped to understand that as an ideology and way of life Islam is superior to the failed ideologies of capitalism and communism." a party based on religious racist party. no one complains about those.


http://www.islamicparty.com/



LOL i looked at their policies


Defence Policy

In the name of God the most gracious, the most merciful and peace be upon our prophet Muhammad, the seal of the prophets and messengers.

I only got that far.. LOL just LOL


Economic Policy








In the name of God the Compassionate, the Merciful, is the formula a Muslim recites at the beginning of any and all undertakings. It is likewise the fundamental starting point of Islamic economics. Compassion and mercy are two elements without which our humanity is lost, and if our humanity is to be maintained within any system, these two elements are required. Capitalism never had these elements and never wanted them as they interfered with its primary policies of maximum accumulation and maximum profit.

Islam rejects these aspects of capitalism. Islam rejects the ethos whereby the measure of human worth is degraded to a toting up of bank balances. We as Muslims reject that system of economics whereby millions of human beings have to starve to death and suffer utter deprivations in order that a country can pay off extortionate interest payments on foreign debts. We also reject that system of economics whereby a food mountain in one part of the world is refused to the starving in another, so that the international price of this or that commodity is not threatened.

Islam, the religion of serenity, humanity and practicality, seeks the alleviation of economic degradation and suffering and seeks to re-establish human beings at the centre of its economic considerations with the furtherance of humanity as its ultimate goal. And as humanity cannot progress one iota towards contentment without a recognition of God, Who lies at the very heart of that humanity, Islam seeks the implementation of the revealed instructions of God as its day to day practice.

Therefore, as God is compassionate, His revealed system of economics is compassionate. He informs us:

'I, Allah, am the best knower. This book, there is no doubt in it, is a guide to those who keep their duty (Qur'an, 2;1-2) ... Those who swallow usury cannot arise except as he whom the evil one has demented by his touch. That is because they say trading is like usury. But Allah has allowed trade and forbidden usury. ... Allah will blot out usury and cause charity to prosper.... 0 you who believe, keep your duty to Allah and relinquish what still remains due to you, if you are indeed believers. But if you do not, then expect war from Him and His messenger; and if you repent then you may keep your capital. Wrong not and you shall not be wronged. ... And if the debtor is in difficulty let there be a postponement till he is in ease, though if you remit it as alms it would indeed be better for you, if you only knew.' (Qur'an 2;275-280).

God is just, therefore His Qur'an promotes justice and ethics in our commercial and economic activities.

'O you who believe, when you contract a debt for a fixed term, commit it to writing. And let a scribe record it between you with fairness.... And let him who owes the debt dictate the terms, and also observe his duty to Allah, his Lord, and not diminish anything from it."" (Qur'an 2;282)

As God is Wise, the economic system in Islam is supremely practicable and conducive to human survival insisting on recognising human efforts and labour as the primal element and not capital, which should be a useful servant and not the cruel master it has become under the present system devoid of mercy. Islam recognises the link between economics and the relationship it defines, and the socialisation of the individual operating within that system. The alienated relationships defined by the institutions of interest are dehumanising resulting in the primacy of money as a self-reproducing all powerful entity which subjugates the human being and his skills to the status of a commodity to be hired or fired at will. Islam rejects this concept most vehemently.


If you think the BNP is scary take as look at that site and any party that begins their policies "in the name of God"
 
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So tell me did he say black britons? no he didnt.
He said failed asylum seeks, illegals will be sent sent back.

He was asked why his party was "white only". He didn't deny this and tried to defend it. That speaks volumes.

His party was also, constantly, referred to as racist by Dimbleby during the interview and not once did he A) say his party wasn't racist or B) dispute the label given to his party and tried to essentially defend why it is in essence ok to be racist.
 
What is disgusting about having a party which represents white Britons?

Every other race and religion has a plethora of groups and parties which represent them. Why not the indigenous people of this land? What is disgusting about that exactly?

Must have something to do with this non-british attitude we have (or something? :confused:);

Dolph said:
It's tragic that some people have decided that a party that is institutionally racist best represents their ideas, because it's such a non-british attitude that goes against our traditions and history. It's even more tragic that these people think they are preserving the british traditions by doing it.
 
What is disgusting about having a party which represents white Britons?

Every other race and religion has a plethora of groups and parties which represent them. Why not the indigenous people of this land? What is disgusting about that exactly?

You will get no fight from me, solider. I'm a dirty commie.
 
That doesn't penalise white people either. I don't like it, but it has no effect on me whatsoever.

So if this whole forum started speaking arabic only, you wouldn't feel a bit penalised and left out because you can no longer preach your cultural marxism? Never mind the fact you would have to move somewhere else to do it.
 
He was asked why his party was "white only". He didn't deny this and tried to defend it. That speaks volumes.

His party was also, constantly, referred to as racist by Dimbleby during the interview and not once did he A) say his party wasn't racist or B) dispute the label given to his party, numerous times by him.
Because they be feeding the media and fueling a pointless argument, best to let the media have their say, less replying, they'll soon get bored with it.
 
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Because they be feeding the media and fueling a point argument, best to let the media have their say with replying, they'll soon get bored with it.

Except they haven't done in the years of BNP existence.


It is much better to deny these things, even if it is countless times, then to let them slide. It does your reputation no good.

But lets not beat around the bush here, the BNP is a racist organisation and in todays current geo-poltical landscape, where we have many cultures all over the world integrating with one another, it is simply not the way to be. I cannot abide racism.

You can dress it up however the hell you want, a party that represents one group of people, be it white people, muslims, hindus etc is racist in my eyes. It favours one group of people over another. Simple.
 
Mr Griffin told the BBC's Radio 4 Today programme: "There's a huge amount of racism in this country, overwhelmingly it is directed towards the indigenous British majority, which is one reason we've done so well in these elections."

He said "the indigenous majority [were] the second-class citizens in every possible sphere, not as a consequence of the immigrants themselves, but because our ruling elite has made them second-class citizens."
 
Except they haven't done in the years of BNP existence.


It is much better to deny these things, even if it is countless times, then to let them slide. It does your reputation no good.

But lets not beat around the bush here, the BNP is a racist organisation and in todays current geo-poltical landscape, where we have many cultures all over the world integrating with one another, it is simply not the way to be. I cannot abide racism.

You can dress it up however the hell you want, a party that represents one group of people, be it white people, muslims, hindus etc is racist in my eyes. It favours one group of people over another. Simple.

So then labour is a racist and sexist party, by the way the bnp will just get stronger and stronger, the british people dont like to be told what to do.
 
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I love these threads, it makes it much easier to weed out the uneducated, the bigoted and the ignorant... If there's one positive thing the BNP has done, it has enabled all of the above to be easily identified :D
 
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