The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

I disagree with some of that. Multiculturalism requires a certain level of integration and preservation of their native culture. But it's a compromise. Having pockets of communities that do not integrate does not benefit society, people need to be both to bridge cultural gaps.

I agree with that. It makes Blair's push towards a greater number of faith schools even more baffling, especially after the race riots a few years back.
 
I agree, but I think that recording ethnic diversity is a bit of a misnomer.

I'm somewhat split on it, I firmly believe that the best person for the job should be employed irrespective of any other tertiary factors but if certain jobs only attract a particular type of applicant then I also think we need to look at why and see if it cannot be made more attractive to a wider spread of candidates. The greater the spread of backgrounds in the job the more enjoyable I've personally found it so from a purely selfish perspective I'd be entirely happy with as broad a spectrum of people as possible.
 
I'm somewhat split on it, I firmly believe that the best person for the job should be employed irrespective of any other tertiary factors but if certain jobs only attract a particular type of applicant then I also think we need to look at why and see if it cannot be made more attractive to a wider spread of candidates. The greater the spread of backgrounds in the job the more enjoyable I've personally found it so from a purely selfish perspective I'd be entirely happy with as broad a spectrum of people as possible.

If a black guy needs more encouragement than a white guy to take the same job then he shouldn't get it surely?
 
I'm somewhat split on it, I firmly believe that the best person for the job should be employed irrespective of any other tertiary factors but if certain jobs only attract a particular type of applicant then I also think we need to look at why and see if it cannot be made more attractive to a wider spread of candidates. The greater the spread of backgrounds in the job the more enjoyable I've personally found it so from a purely selfish perspective I'd be entirely happy with as broad a spectrum of people as possible.

I agree entirely with that post, despite the fact that I thank you were countering my post.
 
I disagree with some of that. Multiculturalism requires a certain level of integration and preservation of their native culture. But it's a compromise. Having pockets of communities that do not integrate does not benefit society, people need to be both to bridge cultural gaps.

an example of that is the bangladeshi community. none of the older people can speak english. they rely on there kids to translate for them and fill out forms etc. and look how long they been here. there kids dont do to well at school as well because their is no support at home. there was a brief documentary on c4 comparing asians and the mentality of indians, pakistani and bangladeshi and indians came top
 
how many generations do you have to go back in order to call urself british. thats what i want to know

The trouble is that the idea of an indiginous British race is stupid, especially as we're a mongrel nation. Do you have an arbitrary cut-off of however many generations? Does a bit of norse blood, or norman blood in your ancestry make you non-British?
 
an example of that is the bangladeshi community. none of the older people can speak english. they rely on there kids to translate for them and fill out forms etc. and look how long they been here. there kids dont do to well at school as well because their is no support at home. there was a brief documentary comparing asians and the mentality of indians, pakistani and bangladeshi and indians came top

And I believe that is a problem. I do not believe that cutting immigration is a solution nor that racial intolerance is a solution.
 
Without getting sucked into this mindless debate, It might be worth remembering that all humans are genetically 99.99% identical.
 
You've missed the point of the post.

Why should the role be changed, or described differently to attact different races? The job should be described as accuratley as possible, if certain races or groups of people aren't interested then thats their luck out.
 
The trouble is that the idea of an indiginous British race is stupid, especially as we're a mongrel nation. Do you have an arbitrary cut-off of however many generations? Does a bit of norse blood, or norman blood in your ancestry make you non-British?

well scandinavian and french is far more closer to home. than the illegal aliens that arrived yesterday from afganistan, stopping over at greece etc

this country has an identity, it shouldnt be lost
 
as regards to people heritage. some english people are really confused about their identiy. most people claiming to be full english in london particulary east london cockney guys. are eastern europeans jew, that migrated to england at the time of the war. the country has always been some type of haven for refugees.

especially when i you guys names ending with goldstien, but he is claiming full english pride, i dont like fake people

dont say ur english if your not
 
look iam not going to argue this, but you really need to go to senate house library and pick up some good history and economic books published in the late 40s.

I know plenty about this subject and your ignorance of it thank you very much.

Why should the role be changed, or described differently to attact different races? The job should be described as accuratley as possible, if certain races or groups of people aren't interested then thats their luck out.

I would say that a job that is more attractive to different cultures is probably a more effective job than one that isn't. In other words, one that is culturally specific could potentially be flawed.
 
With two MEPs the BNP will be receiving an extra £500k per year for the next five years. That is the sort of money that can lift them above the fringe (they can afford to hire a decent graphic designer and a good PR man for a start), and with the continued disproportionate media coverage that they receive compared to every other minor party then I would say there is a very strong chance that there will be at least one, probably three to five, BNP candidates sat in the Commons next year.

The more the major parties carry on shouting "call an election" and waggling fingers at each other instead of concentrating on running the country; the more the Telegraph decides who it wants to 'leak' expenses stories on at opportune moments for itself; the more the recession starts to sink in and cost jobs, the more this group, formed by a former member of the NF and launched, without any hint of irony, on Hitler's birthday, will gain more and more support.
 
I'm not sure the people living here thought the same at the time.

"Argh, they're coming to pillage and rape us Mum"

"It's okay dear, they're white."

obviously not but thats how ethnic cleansing happens. but dont need to happen like that. just look at the situation we are in now
 
So am I to take it that you were taught in English in India?

That's correct. It is fairly common. At least in the cities. There is a large emphasis on English and it is a subject that is compulsary to learn. This is to the extent that following class 10 (equivalent of GCSE) you have a choice of 5 subjects to learn. You can choose whatever you want, as long as one of those 5 is english. Also, when the result comes out, it's not all 5 that will be used to calculate the result but just the top 4. However, english must be one of those. So if you happened to do the worst in english, that's just bad luck and it'l pull down your average.

But this is the case in private schools. Children in state schools are taught in hindi. Having said that, the difference between private and state in India is not the same as in England. It is not a case of a little difference in the standard of education between the two and otherwise fairly similar facilities. State schools in India are vastly different from private and you would only send your child there if you really couldn't afford to send them to private. Their condition is very poor, so much so that it made headlines when a certain school in Delhi began offering lunches to it's children or when one school began giving out slippers (or shoes. don't quite remember) as the kids going there couldn't afford any themselves.
 
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