The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

Neil79 · 8 Jun 2009 at 21:41

Well that report failed straight away

Home Office

Time after time they have been known not to show true figures , always make it seem as if things are improving.

aslco · 8 Jun 2009 at 21:44

Dolph said:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/feb/01/uk.ukcrime

VERY NOOBY of people to suugest otherwise from that article. It is well known by now that Britain really isn't in crisis as it is so apparantly in the media.

There was a lot more injustice going on in the 40's i bet than now stupid BNPers.

But hold on a min

" Those who died in shootings rose over the same period - the year to April 2007 - from 49 victims to 59 "

OH PLEASE!!! You sarcasticly say that 'ooh thats a large amount change' on other statistics then pick that out. Slighlty hippocritical no?

Delvis · 8 Jun 2009 at 21:46

lozzick said:
There was a lot more injustice going on in the 40's i bet than now stupid BNPers.

Or was it just not recorded :rolleyes:

aslco · 8 Jun 2009 at 21:49

Delvis said:
Or was it just not recorded

hehe. Well we all know that back i nthe 40's people were generally more happy with less technology and more closed minds. I think all people deep down beleive we should reverse 60 years.

VOTE BNP TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dolph · 8 Jun 2009 at 21:52

deuse said:
" Home Office figures show decline in gun death toll "
" Knife crime homicides up on previous year " hmmmm

" The number of children murdered by their parents has risen by about one-third in the past year, from 24 to 33 victims "

" The annual homicide figures show that the total number of murders in England and Wales in 2006/07 fell from 769 to 757 "

That is a huge amount...

But hold on a min

" Those who died in shootings rose over the same period - the year to April 2007 - from 49 victims to 59 "

Not very good Dolph

Given that you have provided no sources for any of the reasons you claim BNP support is a good idea, and that you've failed to read this one correctly (I'll give you a chance to read it again and work out where you've gone wrong before I point it out to give you chance to recant), you'll forgive me if I don't take your criticism of positions based on sources too seriously

Delvis · 8 Jun 2009 at 21:55

lozzick said:
hehe. Well we all know that back i nthe 40's people were generally more happy with less technology and more closed minds. I think all people deep down beleive we should reverse 60 years.

VOTE BNP TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is true, doesn't mean I'll vote for them though.

etom · 8 Jun 2009 at 21:59

theres a healthy amount of ignorance and stupidity from the anti-bnp group in reality i don't think they are that much smarter then the average BnP supporter.

bnp has some valid points, however they have some pretty nasty racist policies or members amongst them and probably couldn't run a goverment given a majority.

But being racist doesn't make you thick/stupid its just a lot of morons are racist i bet there is some pretty smart people in the bnp background and probably a lot of them are more educated then the average person who throws eggs at Nick Griffin

etom · 8 Jun 2009 at 21:59

grr double post :L

Nitefly · 8 Jun 2009 at 22:03

etom said:
But being racist doesn't make you thick/stupid its just a lot of morons are racist i bet there is some pretty smart people in the bnp background and probably a lot of them are more educated then the average person who throws eggs at Nick Griffin

You raise an interesting viewpoint.

Personally, I believe there are two types of intelligence - raw intelligence and common sense. Whilst some might have the former, I am unsure if many BNP supporters have the latter.

Spektor · 8 Jun 2009 at 22:03

etom said:
more educated then the average person who throws eggs at Nick Griffin

Indeed, intelligent people would have thrown bricks.

deuse · 8 Jun 2009 at 22:09

Dolph said:
Given that you have provided no sources for any of the reasons you claim BNP support is a good idea, and that you've failed to read this one correctly (I'll give you a chance to read it again and work out where you've gone wrong before I point it out to give you chance to recant), you'll forgive me if I don't take your criticism of positions based on sources too seriously

Well if your talking about the numbers of muders if there was just 1 less murder
the gov could claim it has fallen could it not.
I dont see anywhere in that link that points to a good decrease in murders.

Please show me were I am wrong.

EDIT= Have you got a more up to date one please.
Just looked at the UK gov one and thats 2005 http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Nl1/Newsroom/DG_4022461
I can't find a Gov one for 2008 maybe you can

THMRK · 8 Jun 2009 at 22:24

Jesus. Where the hell was I again?!

Dolph · 8 Jun 2009 at 22:33

deuse said:
Well if your talking about the numbers of muders if there was just 1 less murder
the gov could claim it has fallen could it not.
I dont see anywhere in that link that points to a good decrease in murders.

The rate of decrease in murder is a bigger percentage swing compared to the vote increase of the BNP, so is a 1.3-1.6% change a good result or not?

Please show me were I am wrong.

EDIT= Have you got a more up to date one please.
Just looked at the UK gov one and thats 2005 http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Nl1/Newsroom/DG_4022461
I can't find a Gov one for 2008 maybe you can

I've had a look, but can't find the data (I can find more general crime statistics, but not the homicide rate).

The thing is, how do you think the BNP are going to solve the crime problem?

mattheman · 8 Jun 2009 at 22:36

Skidder said:
no, you're right, it's the intellectual elite voting for the BNP

Being an ex-labour supporter hardly singles a person out for Brain of Britain, while being a BNP supporter most definitely puts a person towards the bottom of the pile. Perhaps we should do an IQ test for a selection of you BNP spanners and a selection of those with strong views against. I think we all know what the result would be.

Some bnp members have a good education infact nick has a good degree in law from cambridge. so to say bnp members and voters are uneducated shows peopel have no idea and just chat crap.

deuse · 8 Jun 2009 at 22:39

Dolph said:
The rate of decrease in murder is a bigger percentage swing compared to the vote increase of the BNP, so is a 1.3-1.6% change a good result or not?

I've had a look, but can't find the data (I can find more general crime statistics, but not the homicide rate).

The thing is, how do you think the BNP are going to solve the crime problem?

I have said lots of time here why I voted BNP in the Euro,but just for you.

"The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference"

Yes HL2 but its works in real life to

mattheman · 8 Jun 2009 at 22:39

Robe$h said:
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So, people who didn't vote can feel guilty. As can people who voted BNP. It's an embarrassment to the UK.

whats an embarrassment to the uk is labour and the cons.

SexyGreyFox · 8 Jun 2009 at 22:55

mattheman said:
Some bnp members have a good education infact nick has a good degree in law from cambridge. so to say bnp members and voters are uneducated shows peopel have no idea and just chat crap.

Some BNP members have a good education, in fact Nick has a good degree in law from Cambridge. So to say BNP members and voters are uneducated shows people have no idea and just chat crap.

mattheman · 8 Jun 2009 at 23:07

dmpoole said:
Some BNP members have a good education, in fact Nick has a good degree in law from Cambridge. So to say BNP members and voters are uneducated shows people have no idea and just chat crap.

christ its just a forum.

Monkey Puzzle · 8 Jun 2009 at 23:24

dmpoole said:
snip.

Still incorrect; he got a 2.2.

Hatter The Mad · 8 Jun 2009 at 23:28

mattheman said:
Some bnp members have a good education infact nick has a good degree in law from cambridge. so to say bnp members and voters are uneducated shows peopel have no idea and just chat crap.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2008/nov/03/greenpolitics-liberaldemocrats