The all encompassing BNP thread - keep all crap in here.

[oli collett]

Perhaps it would be more Polite to ask questions about the "Current" BNP policies rather than Hound another forum member for answers to questions made not relevant through the passage of time.
I have changed my views in my life time many times & those that haven't just haven't lived long enough yet.
I am Not disputing what other posters have written I would just like questions asked that are relevant to Now rather than 10 years ago & I think they should also be asked about the Party rather than another member.
This is a thread on the BNP after all Not DD.

So, we should just be discussing whatever policies the BNP are putting across at this current point of time, ignoring the background of their current members, leader and the beliefs that they hold, because they no longer broadcast them publicly so are no longer relevant? Rubbish.

The point of my questioning was that I don't believe a lot of BNP voters understand the history of the party. To clarify - I was not trying to get at DD with my post - I simply had no idea of the extent of his views.

 

[Ross1234]

Judging everyone based on one person, is that not how most racim starts. Dont act like your better than other people due to who people vote for

I think you can act like your better than someone if they are a racist... I feel like im better than hitler after all, and you probably do too.

We were just talking about you DD as you were the only one supporting them at that point

 

[Spektor]

The odd post is fine, but the thread was about to go off at a tangent where it was all about me. The thread isn't called 'the all encompassing DD thread - keep all the crap in here'

You seem to be the only one fighting the BNP's corner.. a couple of others chirp in here and there and looks like most of those in the earlier threads are keeping their heads down. So how could it not end up about you and what you think, also considering most of your views on race seem very much in line with the BNPs and vice versa.

 

[4T5]

@ oli
I do feel that we should be aware of a parties past but only in the sense of History, things change in time.
As for DD obviously members question other members but when you scroll a whole page of tit for tat it gets boring.
Personally I come in this thread for knowledge about the BNP not for knowledge about DD.

It is Always better to be well informed whether you agree or disagree, I don't feel I know enough about the subject to post but still want to learn. Reading about DD & watching the tit for tat teaches nobody nothing apart from how childish members can be.

The Thread title is quite Clear.

 

[semi-pro waster]

The odd post is fine, but the thread was about to go off at a tangent where it was all about me. The thread isn't called 'the all encompassing DD thread - keep all the crap in here'

You should be honoured, not everyone is given a whole thread to themselves where their views are dissected and examined.

You already know that I don't agree with a significant portion of your views but I do think it might be best if we limit ourselves to the instant case here, there is more than enough wrong with the BNP to pick apart without getting personal.

 

[Monkey Puzzle]

Judging everyone based on one person, is that not how most racim starts. Dont act like your better than other people due to who people vote for

Well DD acts in a similar way to the BNP at large - deflecting questions on their policies towards non-whites and pretending it is they who are justified since they have been mistreated. It's the equivalent of a school bully being talked to sternly as to why he felt little Amit deserved to be beaten to a pulp and saying "he started it, honest". It's pathetic, and shows they remain an extremist party that if honest about their policies cannot hope to garner real support in the country.

As for whether the BNP would stick to a nice friendly voluntary repatriation scheme, in Nick Griffin's interview by Paxman during the Oldham riots Griffin suggested building a peace-wall akin to Northern Ireland and setting up apartheid in English cities. Can we please stop pretending the BNP and its supporters are misunderstood patriots. They are not. They are deeply unpleasant racist bigots, and if they ever got power this country would fall apart.

The Thread title is quite Clear.

Yes, keep all BNP crap in here.

 

[dirtydog]

...this country would fall apart.

From where I'm sitting it is falling apart right now.

 

[Skidder]

Can we please stop pretending the BNP and its supporters are misunderstood patriots. They are not. They are deeply unpleasant racist bigots, and if they ever got power this country would fall apart.

They're doing a pretty good job of highlighting just how unpleasant and incapable they are for us.

The lack of empathy shown by everyone of the pro-BNP posters here is really alarming.

 

[Kennysevenfold]

We are only trying to get a picture of dirtydog so we can get a picture of the type of people bnp voters must be.

Well i look normal.

 

[Skidder]

From where I'm sitting it is falling apart right now.

Why is the country experiencing problems. Could it be due to fundamental problems with the banking system; the packaging and re-packaging of toxic assets without real knowledge of their value; a flawed government; or is it due to all those pesky immigrants, coming over here, with their different coloured skins and unfamiliar traditions stealing British jobs from our fine partiotic WHITE working man. I'll give you a clue, the asnwer lies somewhere in points one to three.

You really do come accross as a total cretin and a hate-monger.

 

[dirtydog]

Why is the country experiencing problems. Could it be due to fundamental problems with the banking system; the packaging and re-packaging of toxic assets without real knowledge of their value; a flawed government; or is it due to all those pesky immigrants, coming over here, with their different coloured skins and unfamiliar traditions stealing British jobs from our fine partiotic WHITE working man. I'll give you a clue, the asnwer lies somewhere in points one to three.

You really do come accross as a total cretin and a hate-monger.

So mass immigration and multiculturalism are not causing any problems?

 

[Skidder]

So mass immigration and multiculturalism are not causing any problems?

Our economic situation is largely due to the points I mention. If immigration plays a role it is a minor one and as such the solution to our perceived problems most certainly does not lie with a party based around a single policy (especially one which it views in largely emotive rather than economic terms.)

I fail to see how multiculturalism is causing our economic crisis and suspect the social benefits of multiculturalism far out way the disbenefits.

If a minority of individuals do not have the capacity to integrate either through a lack of understanding, empathy, social awareness or intellect (I include people like you and the minority of immigrants who fail to integrate) this is a fair price to pay for those of us who see the economic and social benefits of playing nice.

 

[Vanilla_Pod]

So mass immigration and multiculturalism are not causing any problems?

Not a hugely significant one in the grand scale of things no!! Only a fool would think that

 

[Skidder]

I think I just hit upon some irony here, the typical BNP racist aggressor (Dirty Dog) is the minority in Britain, lacks the willingness to understand and integrate with other cultures and is easily lead by more intelligent but conniving and manipulative fringe political activists with their own agendas.

The person they perceive as the typical immigrant is probably more typical of fundamentalists, lacking in intelligence and empathy and being manipulated by fringe political activists with their own agendas.

The BNP and Al Qaeda should have a shared Christmas party, if you put aside your obvious differences you share a common outlook of intolerance and a lack of empathy, whilst being unaware of how you are just puppets who do not represent the typical world view of your community. Go on, it would be a hoot.

 

[I get around]

We are only trying to get a picture of dirtydog so we can get a picture of the type of people bnp voters must be.

Just imagine your average white van driver, dim looking skinhead bloke, dragging his knuckles.
Thats what i'd envisage most of them look like.

 

[Neodite]

Skidder, just because immigration does not play a large part in the ressesion, does not mean things dont still need to change. Are then BNP the right people? Nope, but nobody else is doing anything... About this or anything else.

Not everything in politics resolves around the current climate, look ahead abit more

 

[Knubje]

Woah! I stumbled into this thread thinking "heh, I'll just post a GD-esque comment, and do one".

Upon catching up on a few pages I think I'll just sit this one out!

Enjoy

 

[Sankari]

Evangelion's posts are demolished one by one, but he ignores it then skips onto the next subject to be wrong about.

No they weren't. In fact, you even helped to prove my point.

It doesn't sit too well with me having an Australian lecture us on how to run our own country, I must say.

Tough. Not my problem.

I would have hoped an immigrant would be a bit more respectful towards his host country... but then again that isn't the way with immigrants is it.

My paternal grandfther was English and served in the British Army of the Rhine during WWII. My maternal grandfather was English and served as gunnery officer on the British submarine HMS Taciturn during WWII. My paternal great-grandfather on my father's side was also English, and served in the British Navy during WWI. You've picked the wrong fight with the wrong guy.

I'm a British citizen, and I'll say whatever the hell I damn well please. If you don't like it, you know where the door is.

 

[dirtydog]

Our economic situation is largely due to the points I mention. If immigration plays a role it is a minor one and as such the solution to our perceived problems most certainly does not lie with a party based around a single policy (especially one which it views in largely emotive rather than economic terms.)

I fail to see how multiculturalism is causing our economic crisis and suspect the social benefits of multiculturalism far out way the disbenefits.

Where have I said that multiculturalism or indeed mass immigration are 'causing our economic crisis'? Sounds like a straw man.

 

[dirtydog]

I think I just hit upon some irony here, the typical BNP racist aggressor (Dirty Dog) is the minority in Britain, lacks the willingness to understand and integrate with other cultures

Come again? It isn't for ME to 'integrate' with the alien cultures that come here. It is for THEM to conform to our way of life, to adopt our culture. Multiculturalism doesn't work.