What does everyone think of Star Wars Eps I-III?

Gideon Lorr said:
What I don't understand is why Episode 1 was wasted on largely pointless back story which could have been sumed up in flashbacks?

E.g. Episode one- essentially Episode 2 without the love story being so...awful, and secondly, the start of Anakin slowly turning towards the dark side?

Episode two- set around a key part/event of the middle of the Clone Wars? Again, evidence of Anaking becoming increasingly aggressive and violent, etc.

Episode three- largely the same, as this one was dark enough to be okay. The main difference is that again, Anakin doesn't turn to the dark side within all of 5 minutes of hanging around Palpatine...

If they took that sort of approach, I think the trilogy would have been a lot closer to the original one.
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your missing the point on why Anakin turned and your version of the story would have been a totally different outcome.


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he wasnt angry and didnt kill people for no reason before he turned, he was just naive and arrogant.

he turned to the darkside because he thought he could save Padme as he was brainwashed that the emperor was the only person who could cure her.. in 10 seconds or so he had the decision to save hes wife, or Windu... and chose the wrong one.

In Return Of The Jedi he killed the emperor because he saw another loved one about to die in the same situation, makes perfect sense to me.

The only thing i thought was retarded in Episode one was when the Jedi Council all said that Anakin Skywalker would balance the force, and then the next sentence it was stated that the Jedis thought that the Sith have been destroyed hundred of years ago.............. that doesnt take a genius to work out!

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They are dire
The LOTR films released along a similar period had a 10 minute opening introduction which told the story of the time before the ring war.

In 3 entire films lucas managed to cover less ground, and indeed make good actors look awful/shallow and wooden.

Nice $$ thought Geroge, great marketing.
 
They are dire
The LOTR films released along a similar period had a 10 minute opening introduction which told the story of the time before the ring war.

In 3 entire films lucas managed to cover less ground, and indeed make good actors look awful/shallow and wooden.

Nice $$ thought Geroge, great marketing.
 
FishThrower said:
your missing the point on why Anakin turned and your version of the story would have been a totally different outcome.


*****SPOILER****
he wasnt angry and didnt kill people for no reason before he turned, he was just naive and arrogant.

he turned to the darkside because he thought he could save Padme as he was brainwashed that the emperor was the only person who could cure her.. in 10 seconds or so he had the decision to save hes wife, or Windu... and chose the wrong one.

In Return Of The Jedi he killed the emperor because he saw another loved one about to die in the same situation, makes perfect sense to me.

The only thing i thought was retarded in Episode one was when the Jedi Council all said that Anakin Skywalker would balance the force, and then the next sentence it was stated that the Jedis thought that the Sith have been destroyed hundred of years ago.............. that doesnt take a genius to work out!

******SPOLLIER END****
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Just because it makes sense, doesn't make them good films.
 
With regards to Episode 3,

This had the most potential of all of Star Wars films to be the greatest - to show how Anakin went to the dark side and how Emperor made his final movements to power as well as the destruction of the Jedi.

The dialogue was cringeworthy at times - the actors did the best they did and McDiaramid did a great job with what was given to him. Not to sure about his make up at some points in the film, which is odd considering the scene with him at the end was perfect emperor sound and look. I did enjoy the senate scenes of him announcing the empire and the 'pod rage' sequence with Yoda.


I hated General Grevious and thought he was a total waste of time. That time could have been used to enhance other scenes as I felt quite a lot of the scenes were flat - especially the one between Padme & Anakin in their appartment.

I would have liked Padme to of confronted Palpatine on his political and military manavourings and for him to destroy her with his force powers instead of dying the way she did, which was very poor.

I still enjoy the film and still very watchable - just a shame it could have been so much better. I just wish it could have been even darker and more deep.

I just wonder if things should have happened sooner in Episode 1 or 2?
 
Forget the films, just read the follow on books in the expanded universe. Just about every single book that follows on from ROTJ of which there are about 80 are better stories than anything lucas had a hand in and would have made better films.

Anakins a baby compared to what Luke and then Leias kids become :)

Ep3 is the only one for me that bearable in the new trilogy. The casting was appalling.
 
GSXRMovistar said:
This. The problem was Episodes IV-VI had 20 years of nostalgia on its side.
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And indeed, when I watched my first Star Wars film (Episode I), I thought it was the best film I'd ever watched in my life. Then again, I was 11 :D

Looking back though, Episode 3 was good enough it its own right, the first will always be remembered by Liam Neeson's cool portrayal of Qui Gonn. And the second for proving to the world crap actors can indeed be found on the big screen (Christensen)
 
dannyjo22 said:
Forget the films, just read the follow on books in the expanded universe. Just about every single book that follows on from ROTJ of which there are about 80 are better stories than anything lucas had a hand in and would have made better films.

Anakins a baby compared to what Luke and then Leias kids become :)

Ep3 is the only one for me that bearable in the new trilogy. The casting was appalling.
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Could you recommend some star wars books after ROTJ:)
 
Any film that has an actor saying the line 'Iv'e got a bad feeling about this' is rubbish.

Just like any song which has the line 'Put your hands in the air. wave them around like you just don't care'

Cringworthy
 
I actually liked the prequel trilogy tbh, but i think what allot of people are missing is that the star wars sags is all six films as one large story.

As has been suggested earlier, have a read of some of the expanded universe novels they have some fantastic stories.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars_books

there really are to many to list

but definitely read The Truce At Bakura and the Thrawn Trilogy which are basically the direct follow on/sequels to the episode 4-6.

I also found the X-Wing series to be a good read.

The New Jedi Order is a fantastic read with the Yuuzhan Vong invasion of the Star Wars galaxy. (the war between the empire and the rebellion in the films pales in comparison).

Damn im tempted to go and pick up some Star Wars novels now lol. Haven't read any in agesss.
 
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The Yuuzhan Vong invasion is definately one of the best eras in the Expanded Universe. Like how The Borg is a huge threat in Star Trek, the Yuuzhan Vong would be the same for Star Wars.
 
Yeah, also have a look at Ann C. Crispin's Han Solo Trilogy, explains all Han's back story and sets him up for A New Hope.
 
bakes0310 said:
Could you recommend some star wars books after ROTJ:)
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The best thing to do really is go into a forbidden planet or waterstones etc and pick one up. In the front they have a timeline of where the stories fit in with the Star wars universe. Usually dated in time before of after a new hope.

When I started it was Heir to the empire but many books have slotted all around since then. The first book at the moment after ROTJ is the true at Bakura. There are also books on tales from jabbas palace which explains the back stories of the people in the palace in ROTJ and tales from the empire a look at the war from the perspective of the 'bad' guys. A collection of books on rogue squadron. Or the bounty hunter wars which explains Boba's escape from the sarlaac.

Personally I've found just about all of them to be superb reads and each one adds a little more to the story and the developement of the jedi, in particular luke.



reflux said:
Yeah, also have a look at Ann C. Crispin's Han Solo Trilogy, explains all Han's back story and sets him up for A New Hope.
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I enjoyed Lando's trilogy as well :)

Phatjayunoi said:
The Yuuzhan Vong invasion is definately one of the best eras in the Expanded Universe. Like how The Borg is a huge threat in Star Trek, the Yuuzhan Vong would be the same for Star Wars.
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I think it would make an awesome film trilogy, as the main characters are in their 60's and it's the first set of books where without mentioning names they had the courage to kill of some of the main players. Mara Jade is an awesome character.

Although they did pick the wrong brother to get rid of. Damn lucas interference.

The next set of books are good as well, really getting into the legacy books. Some more shocking kill off's ;)

Hopefully when lucas is gone some of these books will get made.
 
they are worth watching if your a fan but are not a patch on the original trilogy..but he lighsaber battles are better in ep 1-3 becuase of the advancement of special effects and choreography;)
 
Story wise, the entire trilogy is pretty much perfect. I've been rewatching it over the weekend since I just finished playing Jedi Knight Academy.

Sadly the reliance on CGI pretty much ruins the atmosphere of all three films. Anakins descent from Jedi to the darkside was really well told out, but there was just too much CGI. We had lush, real environments like the Ewoks home planet (endor?) vs CGI buildings in Naboo - it just looked all wrong.

Return of the Sith was the strongest of the new trilogy, but it wouldn't have hurt to expand on the other Jedi Council members like Conehead and Mace Windu who were pretty much poorly portrayed.

Wish they'd bring it out on blu-ray already!
 
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The big problem with these movies is you are seeing them for the first time through an adults eyes, I would love to have been able to watch them as a kid like I did Star Wars and fall in love with them for what they are. Instead we have 20 odd years of building up the origional films into something more than they artistically deserve to be and we then watched the new movies through the eyes of adults and they don't match up to the hype.

They are good movies and I'd happily watch them again they will just never be part of me in the way that Star Wars is.
 
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