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Are you happy being spied on by Virgin media?
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The problem is that the legitimate uses of bit torrent suffer. Which is why net neutrality is more important then anything.
People will always find a way to download copyrighted material, regardless of how long you spy on them.
No, it can't. Hence a legitimate service that provides a great way of sharing files will suffer. I get all my linux distros via bit torrent, because these people can't really afford major hosting. Net neutrality means nothing to these people where profits are concerned.
Like the guy above, I am getting sick to the back teeth of ignorant people like you. It's because of people like you that the current labour government have managed to get away with all the questionable legislation they've brought in. Few things make my blood boil on the internet but this is one of them.
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I wonder if these people think the same way about Phorm?
No, I'm dropping them when I move house in a few months time.
I don't download music but I'm getting fed up of their insane throttling for legitimate use (stupid bandwidth limits) and if they're going to start spying on me then I am definitely jumping ship.
I don't download music but I'm getting fed up of their insane throttling for legitimate use (stupid bandwidth limits) and if they're going to start spying on me then I am definitely jumping ship.
I'm in the same boat as you. I have been with NTL/Virgin for a very long time. When the caps started getting enforced that was bad enough.
Now we have this to possibly contend with I am deffinatley re-evaluating my ISP when I move house later this year.
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Doesn't bother me. I don't use p2p (aprt from spotify) I use SSL for my downloads.
I won't be leaving I get a solid service.
I won't be leaving I get a solid service.
Fine with me; I don't download music, and they're clearly not interested in the huge amounts of anime I've snaffled over the past few years. Happy to stay with Virgin for my broadband and phone (we don't use PTV).
+1 I have no idea how Labour have managed it. But people are happy throwing away all their rights. In the hope of shopping other people in. Such a sad state of affairs. But then what do they say the general public is thick.
I think this is utterly wrong and I gave up all p2p stuff years ago, Use lovefilm for movies, spotify for music and Open source or free softawre for the comp and buy the OS/games. So it isn't just people using illegal services that find this absolutely disgusting.
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Same.
As I stated above I will be reviewing them as my ISP very soon.
I use p2p for my Linux Distro's and I also use newsgroups with SSL for...uhm...my Linux Distro's so I really don't care what NTL think they can do.
Just the whole monitoring and stopping an often legitamate way of sharing non-copyright material is BS.
Exactly. The amount of problems I have had with bills is ridiculous. Their customer support is also fairly terrible as the person on the other end of the line never seems to either want to help or have the required number of brain cells to do so.
If anyone who uses their service is the kind of person who actively distributes software etc on the internet illegally then I'm sure they are the same kind of person who will encrypt their connection.
The only thing I can see coming from this is people who've done nothing wrong getting an aggressive letter from someone on a very high horse within VM.
P2P for illegal means is more trouble than it's worth nowadays. That's how the likes of Davenport Lyons stick their nose in.
DPI is only one of a number of tools in the P2P sleuth's armoury and, as it happens, not the most useful one, and almost certainly not the one that got used if you've ever had a 'cease and desist' (or worse).
As for Net Neutrality. Pipedream. Nowadays there's too much vested interest (both financial realities from ISPs and government meddling) in seeing that we don't ever get Net neutrality. I'm not talking conspiracies here either - it's common knowledge.
Oh, and bad news for everyone. While DPI kit is expensive, a significant (and growing) number of ISPs use it. If you ISP has any form of FUP, then you can bet that they're using DPI (and if they're not, they will soon). I would be very far from surprised if I was told that Virgin were already using DPI.
DPI is only one of a number of tools in the P2P sleuth's armoury and, as it happens, not the most useful one, and almost certainly not the one that got used if you've ever had a 'cease and desist' (or worse).
As for Net Neutrality. Pipedream. Nowadays there's too much vested interest (both financial realities from ISPs and government meddling) in seeing that we don't ever get Net neutrality. I'm not talking conspiracies here either - it's common knowledge.
Oh, and bad news for everyone. While DPI kit is expensive, a significant (and growing) number of ISPs use it. If you ISP has any form of FUP, then you can bet that they're using DPI (and if they're not, they will soon). I would be very far from surprised if I was told that Virgin were already using DPI.
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Agreed.
However, what is far far more annoying (and on of the reasons I am considering a switch) is the damn caps. Our house has heavy legitimate useage and we very often (read: enough to make it very annoying) trip the throttle.
Also on an unreleated note the V+ box is horrible.
I kept thinking about moving to VM, but there's just no way I'd be able to deal with their caps...
40GB data downloaded in the last 24 hours, at least 100GB in the last month, and more likely double that. Wouldn't want to even try that on VM.
PS - the whole lot was boring XML data used to construct several large databases. Terabytes of it (fortunately, compressed). Boo hiss!
40GB data downloaded in the last 24 hours, at least 100GB in the last month, and more likely double that. Wouldn't want to even try that on VM.
PS - the whole lot was boring XML data used to construct several large databases. Terabytes of it (fortunately, compressed). Boo hiss!