SPL Season 2008/2009 thread
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He's due to be announced the manager in the next few days. He did well at Motherwell with less resources and it'll be interesting to see what he can do with better players/more money. I reckon he'll be an improvement on JC, but I suppose only time will tell. It'll be interesting if he goes with his 4-3-3 that he usually plays. I'm optimistic about next season either way
Key achievements and overall records from his managerial career......
Reading:
> Appointed summer '91
> Gained promotion to 2nd flight in 3rd season
> Highest place, 2nd in 2nd flight
> Moved to relegation-threatened Leicester (Premiership) Dec '94
Time in charge - 3 1/2 years
Record P183 - W79 - D51 - L53
Leicester:
> Took over with Leicester adrift in relegation zone
> Unable to escape drop finishing 2nd bottom
> Left for Wolves less than 12 months in charge, Dec '95
Time in charge - 1 year
Record: P51 - W16 - D14 - L21
Wolves:
> Took over from Graham Taylor in '95/96
> Briefly took Wolves to play-off spot before slumping to 20th
> 1996/97, finished 3rd in 2nd flight, lost in play-offs
> 1997/98, made FA Cup Semi-Final, finished 9th in league
> 1998/99, sacked in November after falling behind in the promotion race
Time in charge - 3 years
Record: P159 - W65 - D39 - L55
Millwall:
> Appointed in Sept '00 after almost 2 years out of game
> Won League (3rd Flight) in first season
> 2001/02, finished 4th in 2nd flight, lost in Play-Offs
> 2002/03, finished 9th in 2nd flight
> Oct 2003, left Millwall
Time in charge - 3 years
Record: P163 - W75 - D39 - L49
Brighton:
> Joined in Oct '03, 13 days after leaving Millwall
> Won Promotion to Championship in first season
> Avoided relegation by 1 point in second season
> Relegated to League 1 in third season
> Sacked in Sept '06
Time in charge - 3 years
Record: P139 - W40 - D38 - L61
Motherwell:
>Appointed in June '07
> Takes M/well to 3rd in first season
> Makes shortlist for Scotland job in Nov '07
> May '08, turns down approach from Hearts
> June '09, appointed Aberdeen boss????
Time in charge - 2 years?
Record: P88 - W35 - D17 - L36
Celtic make official approach for Mowbray: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/8086779.stm
I'd be surprised if West Brom let him leave for anything below £2m.
I'd be surprised if West Brom let him leave for anything below £2m.
He seems good for that these days
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That will please the Celtic fans then, they werent happy with Strachan winning titles and not playing attractive football.
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I don't agree, I think we'll walk away with it. Why? Look at Mowbray's Championship record, that's the standard we're dealing with here, not the Premiership. Don't forget he also did very well with Hibs (beating Rangers 3 times in one season iirc)
Add to that his ex-player status (knows what it means.. yadda yadda), and the quirk that new Celtic (or Rangers) managers usually win the league in their first full season, I can see us blowing the **** out water. Happy days.
Please don't use that term in here
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are you drunk or on drugs ?
no the team he managed got relegated last season ,thats the record to look at.
In the interest of parity i think you should refrain from calling people huns , its used to descride protestants in northern ireland and isnt a term of endearment as im sure you are well aware of .how would you like it for example if i refered to celtic as taigs ? not so nice is it.
Won't take much to win the title from Rangers next season if Mowbray gets the Celtic squad playing attractive football and motivated. Both teams were dire last season and the SPL finish glossed over the poor football they offered.
I don't think he could have done much with WBA in the Premiership with the resources he had available. It'll be a case of "wait and see" if he's going to be a success.
I don't think he could have done much with WBA in the Premiership with the resources he had available. It'll be a case of "wait and see" if he's going to be a success.
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Why is that? I think his record at Hibs and in the Championship if much more relevant. Last year he was a tiny fish in a big pond, the polar OPPOSITE of where he is now. So, why is his EPL season the barometer?
In the interest of parity i think you should refrain from calling people huns , its used to descride protestants in northern ireland and isnt a term of endearment as im sure you are well aware of .how would you like it for example if i refered to celtic as taigs ? not so nice is it.
I didn't realise that we had such sensitive souls here. I have quite a thick skin so nicknames don't bother me. You can call me a ginger, tattie munching, fenian, bead-rattling ****** and I promise not to cry.
I agree, BTM ( Big Tony Mowbray ) will have us singing again and not just for our football.
And as for the sensitive souls, you'd better believe it tho it only seems to go one way on that count, hey ho.
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managers are not judged on their form 2 seasons ago , ANY club looking for a new manager would look at their last seasons form and avoiding the drop in the epl on a shoe string builds quite a reputation .
nothing to do with thick skins ,its about the perpetually offended celtic fc and their supporters, you cant have it both ways but you think you can , as i said parity.
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BTM, I like that. It was good to watch a Celtic press conference yesterday without cringing at what the manager might say next.
I disagree, on both counts.
Comparing WBA in the EPL to Celtic in the SPL is, frankly, nonsense. If you think the challenge offered by the SPL is anything like that of the EPL then you're sadly misguided. I reckon I'm being generous comparing it to the Championship.
Managers are very much judged on their results from at least 2 seasons previous. They're intended to be long-term appointments and are chosen on the strength of their entire careers. You couldn't be more wrong. Did Real Madrid judge Ramos on his time at Spurs? Did Fulham judge Hodgson on his achivements with Finland? Did PSG go for Le Guen because he was a roaring success at Rangers? Did Celtic appoint Stachan because he was funny on MOTD?
Without wanting to drag this out; I'll say it very much has to do with thick skins. I represent neither Celtic FC nor the body of support, I represent Jock Dodds PLC and I can dish it out and I can take it back. If I'm amongst sensitive sissies here then I will dial it back accordingly, no problem, but don't give me this 'perpetually offended celtic fc' BS because I'm not a spokesman for them.
I'm not sure if you're aware or not but the last SPL thread was locked due to complaints from the Celtic fans on the forum over the use of certain words and the mods here don't take kindly to their use from either side of the OF.
Anyway, personally I think the Championship is tougher than the SPL as more sides have a chance of winning it and the quality of football on offer is also better than that displayed by the current SPL teams. Mowbray should do a decent job for Celtic in the league though I think he'll be judged on his European performance. It'll probably be nervous performances in the two(?) qualifiers they'll have to play before the full competition and we'll see if they can improve on the away form.
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Well like I said, I don't speak for anyone but myself, so, if other Celtic fans complained then that's their problem.
The Championship is a lot tougher than the SPL in football terms but the pressure and scrutiny involved with managing Celtic is obviously a lot greater. Our two previous managers both came from similar clubs, with a similar lack of European experience (at least, as a manager), and they both did reasonably well. BTM, I think, will take time to adapt to European football but maybe his football philosophy will lend itself welll to that arena?
The priority, as always, is winning the League, and doing that can distract from a multitude of sins (see Strachan, G) and I think he has more than enough in his locker.
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never said you represented anyone just explained to you why i think the use of the h word is unaceptable on this forum , why would you want to use a sectarian word to describe rangers on this forum anyway .
dont think i did compare celtic and wba , only said mobray got wba relegated , dont realy understand your point here ? are you saying wba is a bigger job than celtic and the celtic fans expectations will be some how lower than
wba,and you think managing celtic will be less of a challenge?
did celtic get their first choice manager ? no , mobray was at best the third choice.Ramos, Hodgson, strachan (coventry relegated 2001 sacked) and Le guen , which one got their team relegated the season before they took up their new jobs ?
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The word isn't allowed on this forum but lets not start kidding on it has any religious connotations when anyone from Glasgow is perfectly aware it has absolutely nothing to do with that.
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well for your information its used to describe protestants , why do you think they call hearts fans diet h ? also its used in belfast to describe protestants and not in a nice way,there has also been a conviction in glasgow for a religiously aggravated breach of the peace involving the word .
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/s...fa-cup-final-night-court-told-86908-20833881/ if that still doesnt convince you dave visit any rangers forum on the internet and ask them their opinion on this word .personaly i only want parity in the crazy political correct country scotland has become , the box has been opened.
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